Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 22:48:07 -0700
Reply-To: Aristotle Sagan <killer.jupiter@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Aristotle Sagan <killer.jupiter@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Failed Ca Smog due to Evaporative leak
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Now your ranting Don.
All you have to do is follow any 1960s or 1970s muscle car for a block
or two and realize California's air is a thousand times better than it
use to be and a million times better than what it would be now if
there was no CARB.
To insinuate that something wasn't done because someone didn't pay
can't be verified.
Do I like CARB? Nope, I sold my 66 Alpine because it wouldn't pass
emissions tests that didn't exist when the car was built. It was only
several years later that they decided to put the rolling compliance
laws into effect, then discontinue them. I also think they should
approve whole engine transplants on a one on one basis. According to
BenT and Stephans AH, this can be done. To do it blindly won't work in
this atmosphere but if I were going to do it, I know it can be done.
To accuse BenT or SAH of doing something illegal wouldn't be right
either. It is someone doing their homework, something Bostic
apparently didn't do.
Don't like rants even more than I don't like government doing the wrong thing.
tim in san jose
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Jeff Schwaia <vw.doka@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually, they do permit OBD-II upgrades that do not include the entire
>> system. They just don't have a blanket approval like the EO for the Subie
>> conversion. Stephan's Auto Haus puts the Audi 1.8T motor (OBD-II) in
>> Vanagons on a regular basis. After a quick trip to the BAR referee, the
>> swap is certified.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
> Yah, but you can only use a 2.2 Kennedy Engineering Subie, you can't use
> any of the other 15-odd Subarus (without going through some Special
> Gyrations with the inspectors, etc). I only repeat what I read on the
> Subaru/Vanagon list, I don't know this from personal experience..)
>
> You can't use a Bostig, 'cause they didn't pay off the CARB. You think a
> 2.5 liter Subaru motor is a dirty one while the 2.2 is OK?...You think a
> modern Focus motor is a polluter, worse than the WBX motor it replaces (in
> other states)? No, they just didn't Pay.
>
> A valid way to test for emissions might be to run all these cars in a
> closed system on a dyno. Check the pollutants they emit and pass the
> clean ones, fail the dirty ones....But California don't work that way..
>
> . You suppose " I "could put a 1.8 turbo in any vanagon and get it passed,
> no problemo?...In say, San Bernardino? Maybe...maybe not. Steven in
> Sacramento, he probably arranged to be approved, somehow...He 'worked
> it'...but could you or I? Maybe..
>
> I admit, California's air is better than it was in the early 70s so some
> of what they do has benefit, but Jeeze, it's pretty weird, the way the do
> it..
>
> Don Hanson
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Where ever you are, there you be. Unless you're driving my van, in
which case, you ain't got there yet.
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