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Date:         Thu, 5 Apr 2012 13:16:42 -0700
Reply-To:     Todd Last <Rubatoguy@COMCAST.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Todd Last <Rubatoguy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Form Jay Leno's Garage
Comments: To: Hector Zapata <hlzapata@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <CAPDG_XJKnh_1WJgsykoERCOSw8N9kzXZJcK8nop5HUxttTtuPg@mail.gmail.com>
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<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> I am really curious what running the evans coolant would do. Here is their response when I asked about the cooling capacity of the coolant vs. water:<br> <br> "water will better dissipate heat. That's a given, but the thing about even a 50/50 mix, water will still create vapor barriers in the motor due to the internal metal temps. Our coolant does not allow the coolant to turn to steam pockets like water does. Ours stays a liquid and pulls much more heat from internal metals, which in turn, lowers internal temps. Our coolant does not generate pressure as well. The only thing generating pressure in the system is the water pump. So there is no wear on gaskets or seals as well as the hoses are not subjected to the high pressure either. "<br> <br> So, it would seem that if you do not have the pressure cycling in the cooling system, your components might last longer. Not having steam pockets would be a plus. What would be interesting would be to see what the coolant temp settles at with the Evans coolant, vs. the traditional 50/50 mix. My guess is that it would be somewhat higher.&nbsp; They do make a big point about needing to make sure that there is no more than 3% water contamination in the coolant. It might be a bit challenging getting to all the places to dry out your Vanagon cooling system - so the initial fill might involve filling, testing for contamination, and draining and refilling until you were in the correct range.<br> <br> Todd<br> '88 Westy GL<br> <br> <br> <br> On 4/5/2012 12:57 PM, Hector Zapata wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:CAPDG_XJKnh_1WJgsykoERCOSw8N9kzXZJcK8nop5HUxttTtuPg@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">That's what I found interesting about the video, and the fact that there's no pressure build up, hence the hoses last longer and the heads/water pump, too. I replaced all the cooling system parts a couple of years ago, almost all, if not all the plastic parts replaced with stainless steel or aluminum pieces. Some people are using long life coolant in their vans, so why not a "for life" one? A 5-gallon bucket might cost me $200.00, contrary to thounsands to replace the heads, gaskets, hoses... it kinda sorta makes sense to me. But what do I know, I've had my van for almost fifteen years and driven about 140,000 miles &nbsp;with all kinds of problems and issues, mostly due to ignorance, and/or not doing a good job fixing something the first time. It's been said that if it's not done right the first time for being in a hurry, somehow there's always time to fix things a second or third time. I think I haven't learned that lesson yet for some mysterious reason. <div> <br> </div> <div>Hector</div> <div>1990 Carat 'Ursula'&nbsp;</div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> <br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Todd Last <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Rubatoguy@comcast.net">Rubatoguy@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thought I would share the response I got from Evans coolant after showing them a photo of typical Vanagon water jacket seal corrosion, and asking if using their coolant would help:<br> <br> ".......we have seen this type of corrosion in steel head as well as aluminum. The culprit is actually the acids that form over time due to the electrolysis. Our coolant will eliminate all the corrosion factors along with the electrolysis. Our coolant is also phosphate free."<br> <br> On 4/1/2012 5:43 AM, Hector Zapata wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/car-care/waterless-engine-coolant/index.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/car-care/waterless-engine-coolant/index.shtml</a><br> <br> </blockquote> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> </blockquote> </body> </html>


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