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Date:         Thu, 5 Apr 2012 14:33:35 -0700
Reply-To:     Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Subject:      Re: Form Jay Leno's Garage
Comments: To: mcneely4@COX.NET
In-Reply-To:  <20120405163451.YE395.310548.imail@eastrmwml107>
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the Evans stuff is ethylene glycol based (plus propylene glycol and prob some other additives).

I can see its pros and cons and and I would not dismiss it out hand as you are doing Dave based on the fact that auto companies have not picked it up. I think you'll find that car companies have a history of dumb ass decisions and lack of innovation.

alistair

On 2012-04-05, at 1:34 PM, Dave Mcneely wrote:

> Take your choice. I know what my choice is. I really believe if this were the way to go, manufacturers would be sending out vehicles from the factory filled with the stuff. After all, they have gone more and more "maintenance free." Most fittings no longer need lubing (long time now). Transmissions are supposed to be "service free." Yet, manufacturers keep putting in ethylene glycol based coolant and recommending change intervals. This stuff has been around for years now, no manufacturer has picked it up. > > Wonder why? > > mcneely > > ---- Hector Zapata <hlzapata@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> That's what I found interesting about the video, and the fact that there's >> no pressure build up, hence the hoses last longer and the heads/water pump, >> too. I replaced all the cooling system parts a couple of years ago, almost >> all, if not all the plastic parts replaced with stainless steel or aluminum >> pieces. Some people are using long life coolant in their vans, so why not a >> "for life" one? A 5-gallon bucket might cost me $200.00, contrary to >> thounsands to replace the heads, gaskets, hoses... it kinda sorta makes >> sense to me. But what do I know, I've had my van for almost fifteen years >> and driven about 140,000 miles with all kinds of problems and issues, >> mostly due to ignorance, and/or not doing a good job fixing something the >> first time. It's been said that if it's not done right the first time for >> being in a hurry, somehow there's always time to fix things a second or >> third time. I think I haven't learned that lesson yet for some mysterious >> reason. >> >> Hector >> 1990 Carat 'Ursula' >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Todd Last <Rubatoguy@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> Thought I would share the response I got from Evans coolant after showing >>> them a photo of typical Vanagon water jacket seal corrosion, and asking if >>> using their coolant would help: >>> >>> ".......we have seen this type of corrosion in steel head as well as >>> aluminum. The culprit is actually the acids that form over time due to the >>> electrolysis. Our coolant will eliminate all the corrosion factors along >>> with the electrolysis. Our coolant is also phosphate free." >>> >>> On 4/1/2012 5:43 AM, Hector Zapata wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/**extras/car-care/waterless-** >>>> engine-coolant/index.shtml<http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/car-care/waterless-engine-coolant/index.shtml> >>>> >>>> > > -- > David McNeely


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