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Date:         Wed, 11 Apr 2012 06:39:51 -0700
Reply-To:     Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: "Remote" Propane Tank Usage
Comments: To: Chris S <szpejankowski@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <CACX23q3JTGZD543hzFu_+sMCNG7ttSmr8CzPt8wqJ6zWhFUx5w@mail.gmail.com>
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I have a normal tank system rather than the Westie-specific one that goes under the van. I put my(5 gal?) tank inside in the cabinet under the sink. Now, before everyone tells me I am going to End Civilization or I could be imprisoned for a billion years for breaking the law by having propane inside my van....I'll say this....It is MY van and my decision to take this horrible risk.

I have the tank securely anchored in there, with some vent holes drilled below, through the floor of the van. Should the tank leak, propane is heavier than air and it will escape thought the holes.

World-wide, propane is widely used. Most other countries do not treat it as if it's as potentially lethal as say Nuclear Waste, like we seem to do here in the US. You should spend an hour in the Gas (that is what they call it) terminal in any Mexican city, Every town has a very busy propane outlet,(government subsidized) most homes use bottled "gas" to cook with and the people usually have to go get their own, most in really ratty looking dented and rusty welder-sized tanks.....They treat it pretty casually and don't seem to blow up too many folks over the years.

I find it very bothersome to have to take my vehicle to the propane place to fill up when the tank gets empty or to top up before I start a trip. I keep a full tank around and when in doubt, I swap that in and fill the other at my convenience... Most slide in campers have an external door and a locker to keep the propane tank in and yet allow you to swap a full for empty without taking the whole vehicle to the 'hose'. It's probably a law that you can't access the locker from inside the vehicle, so maybe I am in violation...maybe I'll blow myself up someday even...I could also blow up my garage or a parking structure, if I had a standard Westie system and it leaked in there and the water heater set it off. Or a satellite could drop on my head. Risky, this living.... One could probably put an external hatch into the backside (outside) of the sink cab and be legal in the US..

One can also fill their own tanks from a larger tank by siphon. This was our M.O. when we camped 'remote' in Baja. When ever some camper went to the city (an all day ordeal) they sometimes took a few big welder sized tanks and filled them for the whole campsite's use, then people brought over their smaller tanks and we siphoned them full from the welders bottles...

(I do not advocate this...I do it, but YOU should always obey and comply with the laws)

Don Hanson

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Chris S <szpejankowski@gmail.com> wrote:

> It seems like propane tanks are widely available in the US. Everyone from > a grocery store to a gas station has them. Has anyone removed their > on-board tank and adapted their Westfalia system to work with those tanks? > I would seem one would mount the regulator, a shut-off valve and a > connector in the place of the existing Westfalia tank. > > -- > Chris S. > "No solution is too complex to be executed incorrectly" >


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