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Date:         Thu, 3 May 2012 14:27:28 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: was Still lousy gas mileage now TDI conversions
Comments: To: ralph meyermann <ralphmeyermann@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <CAAj276yNZLhD_fH-00Cju9ugeihN=iucgK9ORU6svC3qo9GpAA@mail.gmail.com>
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I don't think there is a lot of hope for a 1.6NA . I have run them on a 1.6 turbo injection pump and injectors, and it ran a tad stronger.

you can research propane injection for turbo diesel engines all day long on the internet. I have not heard of propane injection for non-turbo applications.

your most direct route to fairly decent power is a 1.9 NA. Those can be all right. used 1.9TD engines are around $ 3K roughly. one I dealt with recently was a little 'too used' ..had to go through the whole thing.

but it came out great, powering an 85 GL very nicely..ran like 'a normal car' even.

a proper 1.6 TD is not that bad ... I kinda like those even. Nor for sure brute power ...but in the right van with the right use in mind..not bad. I am rebuilding a jetta 1.6 TD engine to go into a 5 speed sunroof diesel vanagon .. I expect that setup to be nigh decent overall, performance wise. I would not be loading that van down with 1,500 lbs of extra stuff either.

I am getting fantastic use out of my very cherry 82 Sunroof Diesel vanagon with stock 1.6 NA engine rebuilt, but with a 1.6 turbo head ....and how I use it too, is what makes it work so well. I'm using it in town, like in delivery /errands mode, all on the level, warmish temps . ..with top speeds reached of around 50ish mph ...it's perfect for that use . Barely sips fuel, and doesn't stink as bad with 15 % fry oil in the diesel fuel. Moving toward a veggie conversion on it next. It's for sale too, this fine van. It's collectible grade even.

starting to like diesels again . though an 88 westy with AHU e-tdi stock engine that's around lately .... ..on pump fuel that sucker stinks horribly ..the exhaust. Guy's going to try biodiesel in it. That should help the smell factor .

what fun, scott www.turbovans.com

On 5/3/2012 3:00 AM, ralph meyermann wrote: > > I also wish for tdi for torque reasons over the 1.6na diesel I > currently own. I have been putting $ aside for this project but would > like more power/torque on less$ to get me by! I was thinking propane > injected into air intake and was wondering if anyone has played with > this Idea??? > > Velma 82diesel 1.6 na westy > >> On May 3, 2012 12:01 AM, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" >> <scottdaniel@turbovans.com <mailto:scottdaniel@turbovans.com>> wrote: >> >> nice informative post. >> good to read. >> >> nice that your diesel is cheaper than gas, like it used to be here.. >> seems like years and years that it's been more than gas here in the US. >> >> in the 90's ..a few times I drove my 5 speed 1.9 TD vanagon ( with a 10 >> gallon extra tank ) 600 miles on one load of fuel, and it was ..I still >> can't believe this now ...but $ 28.00 US to refill,after 600 miles ! >> >> fuel was 1.48 per US gallon then. >> >> scott >> >> >> >> On 5/2/2012 8:42 PM, Jason wrote: >> > >> > Most of my cars are diesel. I LOVE the torque and power the... >>


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