Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 08:18:23 -0700
Reply-To: Daryl Christensen <daryl@AATRANSAXLE.COM>
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From: Daryl Christensen <daryl@AATRANSAXLE.COM>
Subject: Re: removing input shaft seal
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3 things.
1. Grey or Black or whatever color..RTV has worked fine for us (and for VW
for that matter) for 20+ years as a primary sealant Scott.Transmissions
don't get so hot and don't create pressure like an engine does. RTV seals,
gives and fills little divots on these 20 + yr old creatures and gaskets
eventually seep. We flat file the surfaces as well after cleaning.
2. Take the hat shaped slinger and turn it so the "brim" of it is pointing
up and is supported so the rest is hanging down in a vise. Then we hammer it
to expand the brim (not the rest of it) so it has a tighter fit in the bell
housing. Hope that makes sense..Then use the JB and pound it into the
housing. I figure the JB will harden and help keep the slinger in place with
the new seal pushing down on it while its drying.
3. Even out the forks on the crosshaft as long as the difference is slight.
We round them off and even them up on most every one as they do get worn
uneven most times. And never use a gold colored crosshaft..They are very
soft and junk.
Daryl of AA Transaxle
425-788-4070
"On the cutting edge of Old technology"
86 Syncro Westy w/Turbo Zetec in the trunk
90 Doka Tristar w/2.5 Subie
From: pickle vanagon [mailto:greenvanagon@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 6:31 PM
To: Daryl Christensen
Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
Subject: Re: removing input shaft seal
When I took the bell housing off today I found the oil slinger was
completely loose. I guess it's good I took it off!
My plan is to fix it in the way suggested here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=342440
I will try to look back at the pinion teeth and see what I can see.
I looked carefully at the clutch fork for the uneven wear that sometimes
occurs. I can see that the wear is a little bit uneven, but just a little.
How much unevenness should I tolerate? Is sanding down the less worn one to
match a reasonable alternative to replacing the fork?
Just one more question... should I do anything to the mating surfaces of the
bell housing/transmission other than clean them? I.e., is some very light
sanding a good idea?
Thanks again!!
Wes
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Daryl Christensen <daryl@aatransaxle.com>
wrote:
If you are brave..look closely at the pinion teeth way back inside and see
how its wear pattern looks...Nice and shiny is what you wanna see.
Daryl of AA Transaxle
425-788-4070
"On the cutting edge of Old technology"
86 Syncro Westy w/Turbo Zetec in the trunk
90 Doka Tristar w/2.5 Subie
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
pickle vanagon
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 10:13 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: removing input shaft seal
Ok guys thanks for the advice.
Ill remove the bell housing and use RTV.
Other than the oil slinger, is there anything else easy I should check
behind the bell housing?
Thanks again!
Wes
On May 13, 2012 11:13 AM, "Daryl Christensen" <daryl@aatransaxle.com> wrote:
> Don't worry about the gasket..We haven't used them for years and
> always use RTV instead. Just pull it off if that's your preference and
> do it the easy way. Also you can check to see if the little slinger is
> still solidly in place as a loose one will cause leaks.
> T o repl the seal with the bell hsg on, you will need a seal puller to
> pry it out and then a longish tube that will go over the length of the
> input shaft to tap (hammer) it back in.
> Any time you have to put in a seal and cant see the rear side after
> its installed, you should put some grease in the back cavity where the
> little spring is at to keep it from popping out from the force of the
hammering.
>
> Daryl of AA Transaxle
> 425-788-4070
> "On the cutting edge of Old technology"
> 86 Syncro Westy w/Turbo Zetec in the trunk
> 90 Doka Tristar w/2.5 Subie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of pickle vanagon
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 6:25 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: removing input shaft seal
>
> How hard is it to remove the input shaft seal on the transmission
> without removing the bell housing?
>
> I realize the bell housing is easy to remove but I don't have a gasket
> for it and can't really afford to wait for one to come in the mail...
>
>
> Thanks for any tips!
> Wes
>
>
>
