Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 09:19:12 -0700
Reply-To: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Which Engine To Install and by Whom
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Thanks for that link JonD. I've seen their name on the lists, but haven't
checked out their site. That looks like a very good option for me, probably
better than the Bostig. I'm in Seattle, and with shipping I'm guessing I'd
be into that kit about $10,500. That's a bit steep, but I'll give it some
serious thought. It's a lot to pay for a used engine. But then again they
are all used engines once you drive off the lot!
I'd like to find out more about the higher ratio ring and pinion for the AT
they mention too. With a transmission rebuilt I'm sure that will add about
$2500 to the project!
Yikes, it's starting to feel like the money pit my EVC was! But I'm only
into this van $7500, not the $32k I was into with the EVC. With all the
other bits I need to get this rig primo I'll have something north of $20k
into it, which isn't bad if I keep it for the rest of my life. Which will
likely be about 20 more years if I'm lucky! Then my kids will get it . . .
Stuart
'85 Westy
-----Original Message-----
From: OlRivrRat [mailto:OlRivrRat@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 1:25 AM
To: Stuart MacMillan
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Which Engine To Install and by Whom
Stuart
Here is another "TurnKey" conversion package
http://www.vanaru.com/
JonD
What is your location?
ORR ~ DeanB
On 15 May , 2012, at 10:11 AM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
> I'm investigating this too.
>
> The problem with your question is that given an infinite amount of
> time and money you can do just about anything. Here is my personal
> favorite, but it's not so good for a camper:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD2tYiyX_sE&feature=channel&list=UL
>
> In my mind there are only two options for a normal person. The Bostig
> kit
> (www.bostig.com) , which is the only turnkey kit available and uses
> all new parts. You can get a brand new Zetec crate engine for a grand
> plus
> $150
> shipping:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FORD-FOCUS-ZETEC-2-0-LITER-16V-DOHC-ENGINE
> -2000-
> 2004-/290711119875?
> pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43afbba803
> &vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_1023 or a used one for $250. Every bit of this
> install
> is new, with the exception of the power steering pump which they
> recommend getting used. Bostig support seems to be good. You also
> have the benefit of an OBD2 diagnostic system, and an engine that is
> cheaper to replace than it is to fix. (Think about that for a minute.
> You could keep a spare in the
> garage!)
>
> The other well documented swap is the Subaru 1995-96 2.2 SOHC engine.
> Kennedy Engineered Products (http://www.kenneYadyenginc.com) has an
> adapter kit, but you must get all the ancillary parts as well as the
> engine from a donor car and there is a lot of fabricating and
> fiddling. If you follow the Subaru Vanagon Yahoo! list like I have you
> will see there appears to be
> endless fiddling with most Subaru installs. You also need to
> fabricate a
> custom wire loom from the stock loom (several hours work alone). It's
> getting hard to find low mileage engines now (trust me and I don't
> think 100k is low mileage).
> These engines have the early OBD1, which is at least of some use.
>
> They both have their advantages and disadvantages, but none are as bad
> as the waterboxer. It was a flawed plan right from the beginning to
> convert an air cooled engine into a water cooled engine simply by
> casting water jackets on the case and adding new heads. The longevity
> of this engine is in inverse proportion to the power it puts out as
> well with the 1.9 being the longest lived by far, maybe by as much as
> a factor of 2 over the 2.1.
>
> Plan on being your own mechanic with any conversion, unless you can
> find a
> pro who will install and service it. If you do it yourself, you will
> probably be happier with the install simply because you will have
> invested a lot of time in making it work well.
>
> There are shops all over the country that will install one or the
> other for you, and the total cost for a pro install for either is
> about the same here (Seattle). I expect you could do the Subaru
> yourself cheaper than the Bostig, but time is money too!
>
> Good luck!
>
> Stuart
> '85 Westy, time constrained and leaning towards the Bostig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of Jon Durham
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 4:38 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Which Engine To Install and by Whom
>
> As best I can tell, to get more horses, there is a 2.1 WB, a 2.2 WB, a
> Subaru, and a Ford engine to replace my 1.9L engine in my 85 Vanagon.
>
> I would like to get opinions on the engines and recommendations as to
> who is good for installing the engines.
>
> Cheers
> --
> "Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains
> unawakened."
> Anatole France
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