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Date:         Fri, 18 May 2012 09:07:26 -0700
Reply-To:     neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: SAmba Ad
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
In-Reply-To:  <4FB5EE32.8070407@turbovans.com>
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This isn't the original stuff, but this vendor sells hose sleeve:

http://fastwagens.blogspot.ca/search/label/Vanagon%20fuel%20line%20sleeve

Never dealt with him, don't know if product is correct, but it seems it is given comments here:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=491196&highlight=sleeve

And looking at that thread again, seems our vendors sell fuel hose cover:

http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_1137_286/fuel_line_cover_sold_per_meter.html

This image of my fuel hose sleeves:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QKUYCT5bOqM/T7GskOTnl9I/AAAAAAAAFxI/gJtXC6DXak0/s800/Fuel%2520Hose%2520Sleeve%2520%2522Burns%2522.jpg

AFAIKA, these marks are where the sleeve was contacting the engine block. It seems to me that heat from the block made these marks.

Is this a common or normal thing to happen over time? Anyhow....

Since the 5/16" fuel hose I'm using is tight to the sleeve, my guess is that heat from the block would pass from sleeve to hose more easily than with the 7 mm hose. (IIRC, there is a little more play between the hose and sleeve)

My engine may run hotter than normal. Haven't checked with my IR gun yet. The temp gauge needle sits close to 1:00.

FWIW, in routing hoses similarly to Tencent's, I made a combination of adjustments, (twisted FPR bracket a little, bent down the tab on plenum where throttle return spring hooks on etc.) so that:

- hoses from passenger side fuel rail are on top of the intake, not on the side (e.g. not close to rear of alternator) - hoses are not rubbing on each other. - inlet and outlet hoses connect to the stock black nylon hoses on driver side of firewall.

As per your suggestion, I'll make a " U " shaped bracket that will attach to the firewall and have plastic fuel hose support clips. This should provide a non chaffing easily seen support system.

Neil.

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans < scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

Hi .. > I like the protective cover on the hose.. > the original stuff. > I'm not sure if anyone ever has found a source for that stuff.. > it just seems 'right' covering the hose to me. > I think it's just flexible vinyl tubing. > > it is hard to get fuel line through old protective covering , I'll sure > say. > > I think routing it on top of the intake runners is ok ..especially if it's > not covered somehow. > > what is your concern about engine heat ?.. > is it fire, or is it fuel vaporization...or ? > > it's in the details all right. > scott > > On 5/17/2012 2:02 PM, neil n wrote: > > Cool. Thank you. > > Yah I'm in the middle of routing my fuel hoses a la Tencents engine (Chris > on thesamba). Image from thesamba: > http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/866581.jpg > > The above image was taken by new owner of a Tencent engine. Can't find > Tencents ad right now. > > >

-- Neil n

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