Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 13:55:09 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Which Engine To Install and by Whom
In-Reply-To: <4FB28337.40202@knology.net>
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I would like to say that ..
the 'well documented' subaru conversion by Kennedy ..as far as I know ...
'normally' that is the 90 to 94 Legacy 2.2...
and that is the engine that Kennedy has a CARB Executive Order on, in
California.
and 90's don't count as they are known for having an oil control issue.
so ..91 to 94 is the 'bread and butter' basic Subaru engine conversion ..
and they are not bad at all.
there are other fine four cylinder subaru engines too , not just that one.
now about FAS ..( Tiico engine )
have I got a deal for you !
a white 91 GL that was running with a Tiico engine and fuel system, 4
speed manual trans .
I got it with block engine block ..
now I have a 1.8 jetta/golf block with new rings and rod bearings
assembled for it ..
even a windage tray in the diesel vanagon type oil pan..
frehsed up Tiico head ..with new head bolts and head gasket from Van Cafe
the engine and trans need to be put back into the van ..
the whole thing asembled and sorted out .
No rust ...some dings on body.
Front fiberglass bumper is a little kamunged in on one corner..but I
have a great white one that could be painted gray like the stock
fiberglass bumpers on this deluxe model van.
this week only.....$ 1,795 and taker 'er away !
I should put it on 'Bring a Trailer' ...lol.
Scott
www.turbovans.com
this Tiico 91 GL manual trans vanagon is located in Southern Oregon,
just off I-5.
Aloha !
On 5/15/2012 9:24 AM, Jon Durham wrote:
> What is the opinion on these engines?
>
> http://foreignautosupply.com/
>
> On 5/15/2012 11:11 AM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
>> I'm investigating this too.
>>
>> The problem with your question is that given an infinite amount of
>> time and
>> money you can do just about anything. Here is my personal favorite,
>> but it's
>> not so good for a camper:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD2tYiyX_sE&feature=channel&list=UL
>>
>> In my mind there are only two options for a normal person. The
>> Bostig kit
>> (www.bostig.com) , which is the only turnkey kit available and uses
>> all new
>> parts. You can get a brand new Zetec crate engine for a grand plus $150
>> shipping:
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FORD-FOCUS-ZETEC-2-0-LITER-16V-DOHC-ENGINE-2000-
>>
>> 2004-/290711119875?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43afbba803
>>
>> &vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_1023 or a used one for $250. Every bit of this
>> install
>> is new, with the exception of the power steering pump which they
>> recommend
>> getting used. Bostig support seems to be good. You also have the
>> benefit of
>> an OBD2 diagnostic system, and an engine that is cheaper to replace
>> than it
>> is to fix. (Think about that for a minute. You could keep a spare in
>> the
>> garage!)
>>
>> The other well documented swap is the Subaru 1995-96 2.2 SOHC engine.
>> Kennedy Engineered Products (http://www.kenneYadyenginc.com) has an
>> adapter
>> kit, but you must get all the ancillary parts as well as the engine
>> from a
>> donor car and there is a lot of fabricating and fiddling. If you
>> follow the
>> Subaru Vanagon Yahoo! list like I have you will see there appears to be
>> endless fiddling with most Subaru installs. You also need to
>> fabricate a
>> custom wire loom from the stock loom (several hours work alone). It's
>> getting hard to find low mileage engines now (trust me and I don't think
>> 100k is low mileage).
>> These engines have the early OBD1, which is at least of some use.
>>
>> They both have their advantages and disadvantages, but none are as
>> bad as
>> the waterboxer. It was a flawed plan right from the beginning to
>> convert an
>> air cooled engine into a water cooled engine simply by casting water
>> jackets
>> on the case and adding new heads. The longevity of this engine is in
>> inverse proportion to the power it puts out as well with the 1.9
>> being the
>> longest lived by far, maybe by as much as a factor of 2 over the 2.1.
>>
>> Plan on being your own mechanic with any conversion, unless you can
>> find a
>> pro who will install and service it. If you do it yourself, you will
>> probably be happier with the install simply because you will have
>> invested a
>> lot of time in making it work well.
>>
>> There are shops all over the country that will install one or the
>> other for
>> you, and the total cost for a pro install for either is about the
>> same here
>> (Seattle). I expect you could do the Subaru yourself cheaper than the
>> Bostig, but time is money too!
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Stuart
>> '85 Westy, time constrained and leaning towards the Bostig
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Jon Durham
>> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 4:38 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Which Engine To Install and by Whom
>>
>> As best I can tell, to get more horses, there is a 2.1 WB, a 2.2 WB, a
>> Subaru, and a Ford engine to replace my 1.9L engine in my 85 Vanagon.
>>
>> I would like to get opinions on the engines and recommendations as to
>> who is
>> good for installing the engines.
>>
>> Cheers
>> --
>> "Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains
>> unawakened."
>> Anatole France
>>
>>
>
> --
> "Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains
> unawakened." Anatole France
>
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