Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 16:54:08 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Brake locks up in reverse
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hi..
well that's interesting that external linkage was the cause.
Nice to see your note on that.
I haven't seen that one either, ever, on any manual trans VW or Vanagon ..
but ...
I don't drive them with the linkage wonky for years either..
which I have to suspect that people do.
Because ...these kinds of serious failures have to give lots and lots
of warning..
it's not like the shift linkage ( or say rear wheel bearings ) are fine
one day,
and the next day they blow out completely.
Likely there was months, even years in some cases, of obviously very
not right symptoms.
When people drive things not working right ....it just causes more
damage usually..
I suppose it's one thing if they know it's not right and choose to take
their chances..
on the other hand, I get the impression that some people can't even tell
when something isn't working right. And that leads to big expense ..
or possibly near heart attacks.
a characteristic of german engineering is that it needs to *be* right to
work right ..
sure something will hang in there...but due to that basic
characteristic, bad things can happen if operated in a worn state, I
would have to say.
good to see your note ..
and really ..if the shift linkage is not 'pretty decent' ....it just
does more harm to not deal with it.
Most of the time I just adjust and lubricate , and get them quite good.
On 5/26/2012 6:19 PM, JRodgers wrote:
> Scott, it happened to my 88 GL a few years back. Cost me an art show,
> and sent me to the hospital for possible heart attack. Put it in reverse
> to go - and locked tight. Couldn't budge nor get it out of gear. In case
> #1 it was not inside the tranny that caused the problem, but the shifter
> mechanism on the tranny. Replaced all the outside stuff plus the shifter
> mechanism up front - problem solved. In Case #2 - no heart attack - just
> stress over missing the art show - a very important one for me.
>
> John
>
> On 5/25/2012 11:12 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>> I see.
>> I have been dealing with VW transaxles since the 60's ..
>> and have never seen one , of the many thousands I've driven or been
>> around, that would lock up in reverse only ..
>> though of course that does not mean it's not impossible.
>>
>> On 5/23/2012 10:17 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
>>> This Vanagon thing is just s side line for me. In my years of
>>> industrial
>>> experience I have seen my share of bearings fail in such a way that
>>> they
>>> would only turn in one direction effectively making a one way clutch.
>>> I have
>>> seen ball, roller, and even taper roller bearing fail this way. Often
>>> all it
>>> takes is some debris or the bearing material failing. I have also
>>> seen my
>>> share of VW transmissions fail this way.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Scott Daniel - Turbovans
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:55 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Brake locks up in reverse
>>>
>>> I'll sure go along with that if it's an automatic.
>>> I've had it happen ..on a very tired automatic that sat for two
>>> years...then
>>> I installed it.
>>>
>>> manual trans though ..possible but very unlikely I would think.
>>>
>>> are the parts, like the adjuster rod, swapped from side to side by any
>>> chance ? ..
>>> not that I especially think that would cause this problem.
>>>
>>> scott
>>>
>>> On 5/22/2012 3:50 AM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
>>>> Are you sure it is the brakes? A bad ring and pinion in the
>>>> transmission can cause that nasty effect. If an automatic so can a bad
>>> sprag clutch.
>>>> Brakes will feel more like a gradual drag. If it is a sudden snap type
>>>> hard lock up look into the tranny.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of HotelWestfalia
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 11:03 PM
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>> Subject: Brake locks up in reverse
>>>>
>>>> Hi to all,
>>>> I have no idea why, but when I put it in reverse it soon locks up.
>>>> What is it?
>>>> I took them apart on both sides and all is great other than the drums
>>>> are 20 thou oversized already and having deep ridges both sides.
>>>> Anyone has an idea?
>>>> Thanks God to the Vanagon List,
>>>> Zoltan
>>>>
>> .
>>
>
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