Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 00:47:13 -0400
Reply-To: "Chris S." <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
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From: "Chris S." <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Why no bolt-on HP upgrades to the 2.1 WBX?
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Google Robert Lilley WBX. Google DJ-code WBX.
Chris.
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Dnia May 23, 2012 o godz. 23:31 Roland <syncronicity1@GMAIL.COM> napisał(a):
> Ok, so it is now Thursday in Osnabruck, Graz, and SA, and it is the day
> before a long weekend, and many be going splittin' for the weekend, and
> worried this message may be deemed something that should wait until Friday
> but....maybe it is ok to ask.
>
> I was wondering why there are no HP upgrades to the 2.1 WBX. There are so
> many other engines that all have upgrades -- intake flow enhancement,
> exhaust headers, sparkin' plugs, reworked heads, super charger kits,
> lightweight rods/pistons, larger valves, and (oh my!) nitrous?
>
> Anyway, I can't recall any performance upgrades to the 2.1 mentioned here,
> or bolt-on kits sold by the knowledgeable vendors (I've bought from all and
> so thankful they serve us). I have had a few other cars, and essentially
> all have many options to increase engine performance.
>
> it is kinda a poll:
> - the 2.1 WBX was a purposeful, optimized design and maxed out the way it
> is.
> - ya can't do much more with just 2.1 liters?
> - requires reprogramming the ECU which nobody knows how to do?
> - heads are maxed, no flow increase possible, the material is too thin,
> can't tune the head.
> - we Vanagon-ers prefer it slow, nobody would invest in a market that
> prefers to cruise.
> - the owner of 95 HP in a 4,500 lb vehicle would not get excited about 110
> HP in a fully loaded 4,999 lb vehicle.
> - the 2.1 was a compromise, just a 1,500 CC bug engine patched to sell T3s.
> - need to add 2 more cylinders --Porsche got more than 200 hp from it's 2.2
> liter 6 cylinder. (and for the interested over 1,000 hp from it's 16
> cylinder 917).
> - And disclaimer... I know that tencent and gowesty and others offer high
> HP WBX, but they aren't really 2.1s anymore, and they require a full
> rebuild instead of bolt on performance upgrades.
>
> So what is it about the 2.1?
>
> Why is conversion to some other engine, or total rebuild (same cost as
> conversion) the only path to higher HP?
>
> Why can't the 2.1 be improved with some bolt on upgrades?
>
> Thanks
> Roland
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