Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 21:48:20 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Brake locks up in reverse
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Scary ..
to think a VW could lock up on a feller with no warning.
Glad it's never happened to me . Knock on wood.
On 5/27/2012 5:22 PM, Jason wrote:
> I have seen diffs lock up in other vehicles, but never a vanagon. I once
> had a customer's car with "transmission problems" lock up on me at about 30
> kph driving it across the parking lot to the shop. It just about put my
> head into the windshield! Who would think to put their seat belt on just
> to pull a car in the shop... It was a 91 Golf GTI. I backed up a foot,
> freed the diff and managed to pull onto the hoist.
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans<
> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps they just behave better around me..
>> I've seen two seized up VW manual trans ..
>> a ton of noisy ones ..
>> can't think of any with parts blown out the sides, starting from the 60's.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/26/2012 9:05 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
>>
>>> Bearings can fail quickly and with little warning. Once a cage breaks or
>>> debris jams the rollers to prevent rolling things can self-destruct very
>>> quickly. I've seen more than one VW tranny blow parts out of the case.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.**com<vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>]
>>> On Behalf Of
>>> Scott Daniel - Turbovans
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 7:51 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Brake locks up in reverse
>>>
>>> all right ..
>>> thanks for the info Daryl.
>>> I see ..about the pinion getting out of place badly.
>>>
>>> that's from extreme up-down lateral displacement play on the pinion
>>> shaft ?
>>>
>>> seems like one would have to be very noisy for years for that to happen.
>>>
>>> good to see your post.
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/25/2012 9:36 PM, Daryl Christensen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Definitely possible Scott...
>>>> I have one here that feels like it hits a brick wall when the clutch
>>>> is disengaged while in Reverse. See several a year.
>>>> The pinion bearing gets almost 1/2" of slop and it slams the pinion
>>>> teeth into the differential housing only in reverse. Going forwards,
>>>> the shaft is pushed away from the diff and bass ackwards in reverse...
>>>>
>>>> Daryl of AA Transaxle
>>>> 425-788-4070
>>>> "On the cutting edge of Old technology"
>>>> 86 Syncro Westy w/Turbo Zetec in the trunk
>>>> 90 Doka Tristar w/2.5 Subie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.**com<vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Scott Daniel - Turbovans
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 9:13 PM
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>> Subject: Re: Brake locks up in reverse
>>>>
>>>> I see.
>>>> I have been dealing with VW transaxles since the 60's ..
>>>> and have never seen one , of the many thousands I've driven or been
>>>> around, that would lock up in reverse only ..
>>>> though of course that does not mean it's not impossible.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/23/2012 10:17 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This Vanagon thing is just s side line for me. In my years of
>>>>> industrial experience I have seen my share of bearings fail in such a
>>>>> way that they would only turn in one direction effectively making a
>>>>> one way clutch. I have seen ball, roller, and even taper roller
>>>>> bearing fail this way. Often all it takes is some debris or the
>>>>> bearing material failing. I have also seen my share of VW
>>>>> transmissions
>>>>>
>>>> fail this way.
>>>>
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.**com<vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Scott Daniel - Turbovans
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:55 PM
>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Brake locks up in reverse
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll sure go along with that if it's an automatic.
>>>>> I've had it happen ..on a very tired automatic that sat for two
>>>>> years...then I installed it.
>>>>>
>>>>> manual trans though ..possible but very unlikely I would think.
>>>>>
>>>>> are the parts, like the adjuster rod, swapped from side to side by
>>>>> any chance ? ..
>>>>> not that I especially think that would cause this problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> scott
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2012 3:50 AM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you sure it is the brakes? A bad ring and pinion in the
>>>>>> transmission can cause that nasty effect. If an automatic so can a
>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>
>>>>> sprag clutch.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Brakes will feel more like a gradual drag. If it is a sudden snap
>>>>>> type hard lock up look into the tranny.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.**com<vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of HotelWestfalia
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 11:03 PM
>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>>> Subject: Brake locks up in reverse
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi to all,
>>>>>> I have no idea why, but when I put it in reverse it soon locks up.
>>>>>> What is it?
>>>>>> I took them apart on both sides and all is great other than the
>>>>>> drums are 20 thou oversized already and having deep ridges both sides.
>>>>>> Anyone has an idea?
>>>>>> Thanks God to the Vanagon List,
>>>>>> Zoltan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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