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Date:         Tue, 29 May 2012 09:10:27 -0500
Reply-To:     Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Turnkey Proposal Rocky Mountain Westy
Comments: To: "Joe T." <vanagon85@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <CANrF1zgK7x2483zvusP-Um1x+te4e_1rK7qB-T3VjVtTZUQGHg@mail.gmail.com>
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Joe, you're free to be as dismissive as you like, but part of what we are here for, as stewards of one tiny corner of our sick little mini-sector, is to help uphold its standards. If our members perceive that a certain wording, or packaging, or delivery times, or country of origin or whatever might lower the standards for the products and services we expect, I expect—and hope— it will always be discussed here.

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Joe T. <vanagon85@gmail.com> wrote: > I can't believe I just read all of this.  I want my ten minutes back. > > But I do have to respond to the original post, before it devolved into the > semantics of language and nefarious consumer abuse, to say that Rocky > Mountain Westy does EXCELLENT work.  Everything is above-board and top of > the line.  I have a couple of friends here in Denver who have used their > conversion services and the motors and setup are clean, robust, and > professional, and definitely worth $12k if you want spend it on a good > Subaru conversion.  They offer great customer support and are genuinely a > good small business that deserves the Vanagon community's support. > > Now back to etymology. > > Joe T. > Denver, CO > '85 Wolfsburg Westy Subie 2.2 (done for $5k, alone in 2005, with parts from > Tom Shiels, Kennedy, SmallCar, Mastercraft, FLAPS, a Subie junkyard, > another u-pull-it yard, and Wal-Mart, over a 90-day period ending with a > 2-week no start situation in which I would have paid and additional $12 > grand to get the damned thing running.) > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote: > >> So, Mark, an entire industry has co-opted a term for its purposes. >>  Consumer industries are good at that, of course, but it does not make it >> right.  It confuses consumers.  No matter how much you protest that this >> unscrupulous behavior is reality and those of us who expect fair treatment >> are going to just have to get used to it, it sounds for all the world like >> an advertising gimmick.  I for one find it offensive. >> >> mcneely >> >> ---- mark drillock <mdrillock@COX.NET> wrote: >> > All you have to do is open your ears. Try Google on the term "turnkey >> > engine" and you will see hundreds of businesses selling engines they >> > call turnkey. >> > > > > -- > Joe T. > '85 Wolfsburg Westy Subie 2.2


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