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Date:         Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:10:26 -0400
Reply-To:     David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: CO Adjusting Screw. PO Set it All The Way In? Base Setting?
Comments: To: neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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At 06:35 PM 6/21/2012, neil n wrote: >foot taken off gas pedal, throttle valve switch and butterfly closes, IF >very little or no air came through the AFM air bypass, the O2 sensor would >sniff a rich mix and affect the ECU fuel shut off process.

Nope. Once it goes into deceleration mode it's done, the engine is not running. On the Digifant (2.1l) ECU, engine rpm has to have exceeded 2500 rpm or so before it will enter decel mode and stay that way until the throttle is opened or rpm gets down near 1100 or so. I'm not certain whether that means it has to get to 2500 once since the last time the rpm reached the lower threshold point, or once each time the throttle switch opens.

On the Digijet it's simpler, close the throttle with rpm above ~1500 and you're shut down until the throttle opens or you reach one of the threshold points.

> But with your >comments, I can see that once the fuel shuts off, it shuts off. I know >there's a test for this in Bentley but it requires a VW tool (resistor?) to >be inserted in the throttle valve switch plug. Maybe archives has info on >that.

Simple test is put a voltmeter on the O2 sensor (or one of Ken Lewis's neat little LM3914 bar graph indicators which unlike a DMM are very fast reacting and make excellent little monitors to stick in the panel somewhere like the spare switch cover). If the decel mode is working properly the sender will go to ~0 output. Or use a 'noid light on an injector. But for monitoring that switch and general closed-cycle/O2 sensor behavior from the cockpit, Ken's little dingus is the way to go. Personally I'd rig it with a shielded cable like RG-174, grounded at one end like the wire from the ECU is. That way you won't be putting a CB antenna on your oxygen sensor.

The other cockpit on the closed throttle switch on the 2.1l engines is the idle. Normally when you close the throttle (vehicle stopped) the rpm drops to a bit over a thousand for a couple seconds, then makes a distinct drop to its final rpm. If the switch doesn't close, it will stay a little higher than the usual first step and be a bit unstable.

Yrs, d


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