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Date:         Fri, 22 Jun 2012 00:21:43 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: CO Adjusting Screw. PO Set it All The Way In? Base Setting?
Comments: To: neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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The setting of the idle mixture adjustment screw and even the operation of the air flow meter can be somewhat tested using the O2 sensor. The screw should have almost no effect at any speed above say 1200 to 1500 rpm. The throttle switch should be closed when the throttle is closed or at full throttle, not in between.

With the O2 sensor disconnected from the ECU, the ECU will use RPM and the AFM to set fuel mixture. Measuring the voltage from the sensor to ground will give a reading. You may have to drive a bit to get the sensor warm enough to work. Ideally you should see ~.5 volts. If you rev the engine and then close the throttle to activate the switch you will see the sensor go to 0 during fuel cut off. In normal operation the sensor is ignored for a short period after fuel cut off. This is why that idle surge occurs if all the basic settings are not correct.

Surging during closed throttle indicates that some combination of air and fuel is getting into the engine when it shouldn't. Vacuum leaks after the throttle or AFM can account for the air. Fuel can be leaky injectors or even oil getting sucked past the rings or intake valve guides. Those white crystals on the spark plugs could be oil or antifreeze. I suggest oil analysis just to be sure it is not antifreeze.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of neil n Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:36 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: CO Adjusting Screw. PO Set it All The Way In? Base Setting?

Hi all.

The protective cap on the CO screw was drilled and tapped. Checked CO screw setting. It's all the way in.

Emissions test results seemed quite low (HO, CO, NOx), plug colour was grey. Image:

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Engine has a pretty consistent surge coasting in 2nd or 3rd gear @ ~ 2500 RPM down, and a mysterious stall, engine cold. Stall happens once. When engine temp higher, engine runs "ok".

Reading this post from Dennis: http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0201A&L=vanagon&P=R7346&m=1551 77 I have to wonder if the CO adjustment is currently affecting the fuel shut off process thus causing surging. A fuel cut off issue was one of my original thought towards the surging issue.

I've done a full tune up, new O2 sensor & cat, cleaned grounds, repositioned AFM wiper, adjusted throttle valve switch. (it consistently closes just off idle), swapped idle stabilization module (old one causes idle issues when swapped back in).

I don't have a sniffer, CO port is badly corroded.

I've seen posts in archives suggesting a base setting for CO adjust screw is anywhere from 1.5 to 3.5 turns from seated in.

Can anyone confirm or suggest a base setting?

Hopefully a sniffer inserted in the tailpipe will suffice to check my work.

Thanks,

Neil.

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