Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:07:10 -0400
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: 16" wheel in front spare location?
In-Reply-To: <CA+n284MSXRfEoP81w0vHSdJgkK718FhzpDtYG1LZtwYRq+S5hg@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
For an 84 if you're willing to go for the money I would suggest the Nokian
215/60's. There are other XL choices if you want to give up some winter
performance and save some $$$. Some 16" wheels being sold have an offset
where the 225 will be awful close if not rubbing on the sliding door. At
some point consider upgrading the front brakes to the 86 and later or even
one of the big brake kits. The 215/65 is a great choice for Syncros but the
change in speed/acceleration and braking becomes obvious.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
pickle vanagon
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:34 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: 16" wheel in front spare location?
So having looked through options more I see another option is Nokian WR C
Van tires in 215/65/16. Are these too tall for the brakes on an '84?
Otherwise I think they'd be great. The load index is 107.
(The whole catalyst for my move to larger wheels is just to be able to run
all-weather Nokian tires. The 215/60/16's I'm looking at are XL rated,
they're Nokian WRG2 tires.)
The 225 option sounds good but I can't use tires that wide on the 16 inch
wheels I'm getting without using spacers, which I want to avoid for now.
(I don't relish the idea of removing those rear wheel nuts just to remove
the hubs and change out to longer studs.)
I know having a smaller spare is a fine option but I consider that a
downgrade in capability for us. When we have gotten a flat I've really
appreciated the full spare. (With Nokian's there's a 50/50 chance your
spare is mounted in the wrong direction but I consider this a non-issue.) I
think either of these 215's will at least go in the oversized van-cafe spare
carrier.
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Dennis Haynes
<d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote:
> For that size tire you want to make sure you get the "XL" or "reinforced"
> version. In that size the standard load index is 94, 1477 pounds
> without the derate. By going up one more size, 225/60-16 the standard
> load index goes to 98, 1653 pounds. There are also many more choices
> in that size. Depending on wheel offset sliding door clearance may be
> real tight.
>
> For the spare tire carrier later vans that came from the factory with
> the 205/70-14's also had a different tire tray, hold down bars, and
> even radiator hoses to make some more room. The later tray would be
> easier to get a 215 section tire in it. The 225's won't make without
> extreme effort. Be careful that the tire does not rub on the steering
> shaft. Since it is not a syncro I would go with a thinner spare. The
> 225/60 are available if needed while traveling.
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of Robert Stevens
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:33 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: 16" wheel in front spare location?
>
> On Jun 27, 2012, at 9:33 AM, pickle vanagon wrote:
>
> What modifications would be involved to get a 16x7 wheel with a
> 215/60/16 tire to fit in the stock tire location?
>
> This is in a (non-syncro) 84.
>
> Your tire diameter is only just over 1/2" greater than stock, at 26.1".
> The section width is wider but not enough to make fitting that into
> the spare area a problem. It's when you get above 27" diameter that
> things get crowded. If you do get rubbing, take the spring steel
> device out, which holds the spare clamshell onto the frame
> crossmember, and use bolts to hold it on.
>
> bob
>
