Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:09:01 -0500
Reply-To: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
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From: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
Subject: Re: EPA and Vanagon Emissions
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Alabama has no mandatory emissions testing program or annual inspection
program.
And being from NY State, I remember the ridiculous inspection & testing
requirements from the 1970's. In 1976 my dad's 1969 Chevy Wagon failed
inspection at the local inspection station. They stated the brakes were
unsafe because the front rotors were too thin and they would not let him
leave until he paid for a complete $350 brake job. He insisted that they
give him the parts they pulled off & when he got home he measured the
calipers with a micrometer and both were well within spec.
State vehicles inspection programs are like the fox watching the hen house.
I'm glad I live here.
Thanks, Tom Hargrave
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
Dennis Haynes
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:55 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: EPA and Vanagon Emissions
Except for the California Air Resources Board, (CARB since they were around
before EPA addressed auto pollution), all state and local emissions test
programs support EPA mandates in low attainment, (polluted)areas. NY
(downstate) recently gave up on emissions inspection for vehicle 1995 and
older. Most of NY never had emissions testing, only the city-long island
areas. We do have emissions testing for diesel trucks and busses. Even if
you are not in an area with local emissions inspections the maintenance (not
removing or disabling) along with various modifications is still regulated
at the federal level. The enforcement though is usually left to the states.
The greenhouse gas issues also applies to the handling and release of
refrigerants.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Stuart MacMillan
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:06 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: EPA and Vanagon Emissions
Link please, I can't find anything on this. Anyway, in Seattle vehicles
over 25 years old are exempt. Are you saying EPA is going to change that?
I always had to take my '84 to a test site that had a guy in a van next door
who guaranteed passing. Every two years I'd go through and fail on HC, and
he'd put it on his Sun tester, usually doing nothing more than maxing out
the idle, and then he drove it through and it passed. Paid him $35 and he'd
crank the idle back down. Hmmm, I wonder how much he paid the tester.
Stuart
'85 Westy--now exempt, and in three years I can get a free collector vehicle
plate (or nearly free, one time $45 fee)!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
JRodgers
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:10 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: EPA and Vanagon Emissions
Did anyone note the announcement on Tuesday that the EPA won it's last case
which will now allow them to absolutely dictate what happens with our
beloved Vanagons - by way of emission control? It's gonna be interesting
times ahead.
John
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