Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:28:24 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Penetrating fluid
In-Reply-To: <4ffddc85.e3d9320a.3c60.6309@mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi , there have been results from tests posted.
Same rusty nuts and bolts..
torque measured to start things moving for each penetrant..
PB, Kroil, WD etc.
the acetone/ATF mix had the best results.
I don't think it would be impossible to make a reproduciable test..
if one took say , 10, 1/2 inch bare steel bolts, with bare steel nuts
on them.
let those sit outside and get wet ...
cycles of day/night ..and add water or salt water or whatever..
until you had 10 pretty identical rusted bolts with nuts on them , say
it took a month or even two ..
that would be a fairly accurate comparison.
I find that pentrating oil 'gets in' gradually ..it creeps in . ( I like
'deep creep' lubricant by Seafoam just for that idea ) .
I might apply pentrating oil 3 times a day for a week. Or more than that.
I have had lubes work their way along a mechanism for 6 inches ..
with repeated applications.
I'll try this 'new juice.'
Not worried about the smell.
That just goes with the territory.
Naturally.............. .protect eyes and skin from all chemicals.
Scott
On 7/11/2012 1:05 PM, Max Wellhouse wrote:
> The folks on the Old Tool Forums swear by this concoction, but it
> smells worse than PB Blaster or equiv. and would likely evaporate very
> quickly in open air. Also, it's hard to rig a miniature red straw to
> a WalMart bottle when you need pin point accuracy and some aerosol
> pressure, but I have used it and have had success with it. I wonder
> how you would test such products against frozen rusted parts. I would
> think it would be impossible to duplicate each rust-frozen application
> making the tests invalid. Spraying WD-40 on an item and having it
> subsequently not loosen something, only to spray PB Blaster over the
> same area 30 minutes later, and it failed too followed by the
> Acetone/ATF combo another 30 minutes later and all of a sudden it
> works. Was it the ATF/Acetone that did it, or did the PB Blaster
> work after a 30 minute wait, or did the WD-40 finally penetrate the
> rust after sitting for an hour or better? Inquiring minds wanna
> know........
>
> DM&FS
>
> At 02:09 PM 7/11/2012, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>> Ah got mah pump sprayer bottle and my gallon can of acetone right
>> here..+ ATF of course,
>> and I'll give 'er a try !
>> thanks.
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On 7/11/2012 10:12 AM, Rob wrote:
>>> I'd read about the penetrating fluid tests where 50% acetone & 50%
>>> ATF worked the best.
>>>
>>> At Walmart in the nail polish section I found a small bottle of 100%
>>> acetone for a dollar, it's for removing finger nail polish (read the
>>> bottles, several are mixed with water). The next aisle over I found a
>>> small travel bottle with a cap that would allow squirting & I bought
>>> that too.
>>>
>>> In the squirt bottle I put half acetone & the other half ATF, the
>>> stuff works great!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> becida@comcast.net
>>> Western Washington State, USA
>
>
|