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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2012 10:39:13 -0400
Reply-To:     Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@FRONTIER.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@FRONTIER.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fwd: Re: hook and loop fasteners
In-Reply-To:  <9d80be$81r7i6@out01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
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<html> <body> Hi <br> It will &quot;Cost&quot; Not Coast 4-5 times more.<br> Sorry, we have been with out power for the past few days with 108 real feel and High Humidity. Others have it worse but didn't want to run computers on generator power. <br> Being with out power is like camping right??<br> Also All Acrylic Adhesive Velcro is Nylon Base not Polyester. Not that it will matter for the application.<br> I try to mainly use Polyester velcro, In either sew on or acrylic base adhesive. We do stock it in rubber back BUT would not recommend it for this application. Just to give you an Idea I used this velcro on the dash of my sprinter to hold my cell phone holder to the dash since I do not like to use screws.<br> In the extreme cold and Heat it has never once come off of the plastic dash and has been stuck on there for 6 Years. Acrylic based adhesive on nylon hook and loop.<br><br> Up to you.<br><br> Jonce<br><br> <br> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi <br> Sew on the hook or loop to your screen ( do not use sticky back) the adhesive will not stick to the vinyl since Vinyl outgases and will not allow it to stick for any length of time and make a bigger mess then you want to deal with.<br> you can stick the hook or loop to the body of the van BUT it must be clean and dry as well as oil free. <br> Also the Velcro or hook and loop must be Acrylic Based adhesive NOT rubber based. Rubber based will fall off in heat and is NOT what you want to use. If you find a place to get hook and loop make sure it is acrylic if they do not know then do not trust it.<br> I do stock it since I do a fair amount of boat and rv related sewing and Must use the acrylic base. Acrylic base hook and loop also will coast about 4-5 times more then rubber based hook and loop.<br> If you guys need it I have it in Black only and 1&quot;, Might have 2&quot; but would need to double check. Also please note. when you stick it to something it may want to peal off, It bites on to the substrate better the longer it sits on the substrate. use a roller or back of a spoon to really press it on as hard as you can for the best contact. usually after 48 hours it is nearly impossible to remove. It can be removed by soaking it with WD-40 or PB blaster for a bit. <br> Hope this helps<br> I will be out of the office if anyone needs hook or loop this monday and tuesday.<br> Just wanted to pass on some info.<br><br> Jonce<br><br> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">I am considering renovating the insect screen for the slider door opening that I have for my 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon GL Campmobile.&nbsp; I ordered it from GoWesty 3 years ago.&nbsp; i installed it per instructions, and it sort of works.&nbsp; However, it was never perfect, and bugs, particularly large beetles, are able to get in around the edges, where it is fastened to the bulkhead with snaps.&nbsp; A couple of snaps have broken, too, and must be replaced.&nbsp; A few places just never fit tight against the bulkhead, even though properly stretched, measured exactly per instructions.<br><br> So, a while back someone on here suggested hook and loop tape.&nbsp; There appear to be two choices for installing the stuff:&nbsp;&nbsp; It comes as sticky backed tape, or as plain backed.&nbsp; Has anyone any experience with the sticky backed stuff in this or a similar application?&nbsp; The drape itself flexes of course, and I wonder how well the tape will stick over time.&nbsp; But the plain would have to be sewn to the drape, and the edge is a heavy vinyl material that would require a much heavier duty sewing machine that the one we have for sewing dress fabric and such.<br><br> If anyone has experience that would help me in deciding whether to spend $30-40 for hook and loop tape and then a lot of labor, please advise.&nbsp; I guess the sticky stuff would be the better choice.&nbsp; And on the bulkhead, I could additionally fasten it down with the snaps.&nbsp; I could even do that on the drape, if the snaps will fasten through both the tape and the drape edge.<br><br> Please advise, thanks.&nbsp; mcneely</blockquote><br> <font face="Comic Sans MS">Jonce Fancher<br> 56 Single Cab<br> 66 Sunroof Bug<br> 66 Squareback<br> 66 Porsche 912<br> 71 Sunroof Bus<br> 84 Vanagon 7 Passenger 24k Miles<br> 85 Vanagon Westi 2.0L Zetec<br> 03 Sprinter<br> 1 Understanding / Tolerant Wife, 2 Kids and 1 Beagle <br><br> </font><a href="http://www.fanchers.com/" eudora="autourl"> www.fanchers.com</a><br> <a href="http://www.busesbythebeach.com/" eudora="autourl"> www.busesbythebeach.com</a></blockquote></blockquote></body> </html>


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