Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:48:33 -0500
Reply-To: George Laubach <skiplaubach@COMCAST.NET>
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From: George Laubach <skiplaubach@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: 2.2 into a 1.9 case
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Thanks for the catch, Scott. Not drive shaft, I should have stated crank shaft....I appreciate correct verbiage as well. As they say in the birding world, you're only as good as your last mis-identified bird....
Re coolant changes and radiator, new rad 4,000 miles ago (10 months) and new coolant since May, and new "half pipes" from TK. I can imagine that the engine may tax the cooling system a bit more (needle right over LED and steady). I run Valvoline 20W 50 and premium gas.
Has anyone else on the list done this conversion? I'm kind of interested in hearing any counterpoints to doing this conversion; not necessarily what would be a better motor option, but why this is not a good idea. Total engine investment (engine parts and labor) = $2500.
Skip
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On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> I wouldn't worry about the studs in a waterboxer ( other than corrosion from lack of coolant changes getting to them.)
>
> sure, air-cooled VW's had chronic case stud problems, but never in a waterboxer that I have heard of.
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> Not sure what is meant by a 'driveshaft' in an 84 Westy. It's not AWD or anything.
> rear axles ?
> camshaft ?
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> The heat load on the cooling system will be more than that produced by tired 1.9 that came out of course.
> If the radiator is original , you may think about that.
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> Just be nice to it and if it's going to hang together it probably will.
> 1,000 miles without any real engine issues is a good sign.
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> On 7/24/2012 7:35 PM, George Laubach wrote:
>> Interesting, so extra stress on the head studs. I reused the heads (and studs), "refurbished" by the machine shop.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:25 PM, "Tom Hargrave" <thargrav@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know about the water cooled engines but pushing a set of air cooled
>>> cases could make the studs that fasten the cylinders & heads to the cases
>>> strip. We used to install a set of "case savers" in anything that made
>>> horsepower.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Tom Hargrave
>>> www.stir-plate.com
>>> www.towercooler.com
>>> www.kegkits.com
>>> www.grow-sun.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
>>> George Laubach
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:59 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: 2.2 into a 1.9 case
>>>
>>> Now that I've driven subject for 1,000 miles or so with satisfaction,
>>> learning as I go about timing, rocker arm adjustment, compression, and
>>> brake, clutch, and coolant bleeding, etc., etc., etc., I was curious about
>>> any potential hazards that I should be paranoid about as it relates to this
>>> arrangement of a 2200cc piston/cylinder into a 1.9L case ('84 Westy)
>>> (longest sentence I've ever written). Along with the new P/C's I also
>>> installed new driveshaft, connecting rods and cam (and new lifters).
>>>
>>> What might your wisdom conject? What might I worry about? I was thinking
>>> things like, well, the air flow, fuel injection, and cooling system was
>>> designed for a 1.9, but now is "managing" a 2.2L system. Maybe the larger
>>> system puts an extra strain on the components? I've seen no outward symptoms
>>> that I can correlate to an "imbalance".
>>>
>>> So, care to wonder, perhaps with more wisdom or experience than this
>>> writer/driver?
>>>
>>> Skip
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