Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:31:11 -0400
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: New-Spark-Plugcebo Effect
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Iv'e pulled my share! The best is when these failure get blamed on a bad
engine rebuild.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Rocket J Squirrel
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:53 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: New-Spark-Plugcebo Effect
"Let the piston meltdowns and broken rings begin."
Dennis, who's had that happen to them?
--
Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
Bend, Ore.
On 08/21/2012 04:28 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
> Those are simply the wrong spark plugs. The standard plug is a W7C. The
"D"
> is a longer reach plug used in the inline 4s. The projected tip brings
> the flame front closer to the piston and can increase the propensity
> for knock and ping. This can also increase the production of NOx
> especially once ping begins. Unfortunately in the Water boxer Ping is
> not heard until it is getting really bad. Let the piston meltdowns and
> broken rings begin. Yes it may feel better especially after replacing
> worn plugs. If you want to use quad electrode plugs go for the Bosch
> 4477 ( my favorite). Although it is listed as a replacement for the
> W7D's due to its more universal design the actual reach is closer to
> the "C" series and the platinum tip being enclosed eliminates the
> glowing red part that can induce ping. BTW back in the old days if you
went to the dealer to get spark plugs you would get W7CS.
> W=14mm thread with gasket
> 7=Heat range Higher is hotter.
> C=length of thread and reach, (d=extended tip) Next C =copper,
> S=Silver If an "X" = extended gap such as .060.
>
> The new Bosch numbering system is not as easy to decipher.
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of Rocket J Squirrel
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 4:24 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: New-Spark-Plugcebo Effect
>
> Just swapped out my older Bosch W7DC0 pluggies for new NGK BP6ET.
>
> Either tencentlife (Chris Corkin) is right: "The main reason this plug
> design so often produces palpable improvement in idle, throttle
> response, and overall performance is mostly due to the projected core,
> and that is helped by the side electrodes not "shading" the spark gap
> from the middle of the charge. The wbx has a very compact, somewhat
> "spherical" charge at TDC, as well as outstanding squish dynamics, so
> initiating flame nearer to the charge center aided by the squish
> produces a faster total burn, and fast burn is the principal
> requirement for responsiveness, efficient use of the fuel, and lowered
emissions (especially NOx)."
>
> <http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=327351&start=80&sid=
> 2b4a44
> c5892001fb15120a77e2dd8767>
>
> or it's the New-Spark-Plugcebo Effect.
>
> But I definitely feel that the throttle is more responsive and the van
> peppier.
>
> No increase in real power, of course: took the van up my neighborhood
> calibrated steep street and it didn't climb any faster. But I'm
> pleased anyway.
>
> --
> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
> Bend, Ore.
>
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