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Date:         Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:08:13 -0700
Reply-To:     neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Poor Hot Start Discovery - midway through solution
Comments: To: David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net>
In-Reply-To:  <503b2264.8877cd0a.70a9.ffffe620@mx.google.com>
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Right.

So, further to that, I now recall seeing what appeared to be a restrictor in the "T" boot I showed in my image.

And obviously I wasn't 100% clearly understanding the charcoal canister purge process. With a broken purge valve diaphragm in mind, I saw" fuel vapours passing willy nilly through the hose that connects to the intake, into the intake.

Sorry for taking up bandwidth with all that! ;)

Neil.

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 12:26 AM, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net>wrote:

> I was even more mixed up than I thought. Referring to 20.33 - fuel vapors > come from the tank and pass freely into the charcoal canister where they > are in theory adsorbed onto the surface of the activated charcoal therein. > Air, and any vapor that is not adsorbed, passes out of the bottom of the > canister into the airbox, between filter and AFM. > > When the engine runs and the throttle is opened slightly, a vacuum port in > the throttle body is uncovered and sucks (through a tiny orifice) on the > activating line of the vacuum-operated purging valve. This opens the > valve, allowing manifold pressure to act (through a somewhat larger > orifice) on the canister, pulling filtered air slowly up through it from > inside the airbox and carrying along such molecules of gasoline as detach > themselves from the activated charcoal. > > Bentley is opaque on whether the 2.1l setup has a restricting orifice on > the canister suction line or whether it's only the 1.9l, where it's built > into an angled tee in the hose passing from the intake manifold to the > auxiliary air regulator. I suspect it does, however, because since this > isn't passing through the AFM it is in effect a vacuum leak, so they'd want > to keep it small. > > Sorry for the mixup. I still don't think it's going to have any practical > effect on starting. > > Yours, > d > > >

-- Neil n

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