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Date:         Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:51:59 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: studs and lugs vs. bolts
Comments: To: mcneely4@COX.NET
In-Reply-To:  <20120829122449.N19P0.1488114.imail@eastrmwml303>
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They look nice! It would be nice to know the real strength specification, PC 10.9 or 12.9? I like the 15mm thread length for the hub but you need to be careful of the wheel thickness to be sure the lug nut is not too close to the shoulder. Should be OK if using spacers or if the wheel flange is very thick.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dave Mcneely Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:25 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: studs and lugs vs. bolts

So Dennis, what about these that RivrRat recommends (or at least uses)?

Thanks, David

---- OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote: > These are the ones that I converted to back in Jun08~53000mi > ago. I went with the M14.DE.65s as I was planning > > to put spacers on. > > http://www.bildon.com/catalog/DetailsList.cfm?ID=M14.DE.Stud&Nav=10&Su > bNav=none > > ORR ~ DeanB > > > On 28 Aug , 2012, at 12:32 PM, Dave Mcneely wrote: > > > So, these appears to be a reasonable approach to solving the > > problem. One would buy studs and nuts, and simply screw in the > > studs, using nuts to secure the wheels. > > > > Any downside? VW engineers obviously liked the bolts for the front > > wheels, as do a number of other makers. Other vehicles I've owned > > used studs and nuts, though. > > > > Why? I don't think the engineers were just dumb, but I don't know > > why they went as they did. I actually would like to switch, just to

> > make the tire changing business easier, but am hesitant until I know

> > more. > > > > Maybe I'll buy one of those hanger screws also suggested. > > > > mcneely > > > > ---- Rob <vwrobb@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > >> That can be changed. > >> http://t3technique.com/lug-nuts-studs-and-bolts/2wd-front-conversio > >> n-studs/ I did business with him & would do so again. The studs are

> >> easier to deal with. > >> > >> Rob > >> vwrobb@gmail.com > >> > >> > >> At 8/28/2012 07:28 AM, Rocket J Squirrel wrote: > >>> So yesterday I swapped out the two front tires on my van with a > >>> pair of older ones due to excessive wear on one of the newer ones.

> >>> My stepson, a tow truck driver for ten years now, was on hand to > >>> help the old man. > >>> > >>> "I hate cars that use bolts instead of having studs on the > >>> wheels," he said. > >>> > >>> I can see his point. With studs, you have something to hang the > >>> heavy tire on, but with bolts, I found myself needing three hands:

> >>> two to lift and align the bolt holes and a third to start the > >>> first bolt. He provided that third hand. I'm hoping I'll never > >>> have to do it by myself. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott > >>> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, > >>> Bend, Ore. > > > > -- > > David McNeely >

-- David McNeely


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