Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:18:50 -0700
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From: Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA>
Subject: Re: [Diesel-Vanagon] Oil temp gauges,
choices? Using water temp sender + gauge?
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Just received BD order and tested VDO 300F gauge and FAE (says made in Spain) sender 049 919 563 A
With the same setup as testing the FLAPS gauge, a reference meat thermometer and the sender in a kettle of water, the VDO gauge seems more accurate. Remember from my other post that the FLAPS gauge showed 20F too low.
The VDO gauge is a bit of a mixed bag. To damp needle movements I suspect is uses some mechanical viscous mechanism built into the analogue instrument. (Modern designs would use an electronic filter) This damping may also have a constant sticktion giving the meter a bit of hysteresis.
Results from temp testing:
VDO True
180F 190 on slowly rising temp
180F 181 on slowly falling temp
~200F 207F Boiling water at 2000ft alt
(VDO reading of ~200F is visual interpolation between 180 and 220 markings)
Gauge markings are 120, 180, 220, 260, 300
The scale is non-linear and 220-260F is given the most space. It would have been nice if VDO had printed 3 thin lines for the intermediate 230, 240 and 250F temps.
Martin
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From: Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@yahoo.ca>
To: "Diesel-Vanagon@yahoogroups.com" <Diesel-Vanagon@yahoogroups.com>; vanagon vanagon <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:13:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Diesel-Vanagon] Oil temp gauges, choices? Using water temp sender + gauge?
Update to below:
Busdepot indeed has VDO gauges. I just had difficult to use the search feature on their new web page.
Fred, their customer rep, said tghe following pair would work, so I ordered that + some misc stuff I needed.
VDO Oil Temperature Gauge 310012 1 $24.95
Oil Temperature Sender 049919563A 1 $5.15
Shipping to Canada expensive, but more reasonable from BD than many other US sites.
I'll update on the gauge/sender accuracy when I receive it. (As I posted the generic FLAPS gauge/sender combo I bought showed 20F too low, so I decided not to use it)
Will take a trip to Waterton/Glacier NP this weekend.
Martin
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From: Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@yahoo.ca>
To: vanagon vanagon <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>; "diesel-vanagon@yahoogroups.com" <diesel-vanagon@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 11:41:31 AM
Subject: [Diesel-Vanagon] Oil temp gauges, choices? Using water temp sender + gauge?
Hi,
After the overheat issues with my 1.9TD Westy I wanted to install an oil temp gauge as a 2nd check on temp. I bought a "universal gauge and sender kit" from the FLAPS (Princess Auto), but the sensor thread was 1/8" - 27 thread and and VW wants 10x1 mm.
I found a post on vw vortex saying I can just use a temp sender :
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4747075-Want-to-install-oil-press-temp-gauge
What do you think about this?
Appealing for me because the temp sender I probably have among spare parts in the garage or it is listed at busdepot. (I searched for a oil temp gauge kit at BD bud didn't find one)
What I'm concerned is to get a temp sender that somehow has the wrong electrical properties. Are the
sensors pretty much the same and it is just the gauges that vary? Or do I have to match the sensor to the gauge?
Tips for where I can buy a metric inexpensive kit in Canada would also be appreciated (ie Pricness auto, parts source, numper to pumper...). If I find the right kit I'll return the kit with the 1/8" sender and get a matched sender and gauge)
Martin (and '82 Westy 1.9TD)
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