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Date:         Wed, 19 Sep 2012 08:49:14 -0700
Reply-To:     Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Westy Fridge Conversion questions
Comments: To: Larry Chase <roadguy@ROADHAUS.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <33400.1348065644@roadhaus.com>
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Larry,

I have a Vitrifrigo in my van. It's a fine unit. Here are a couple things I've learned.

1. It is set up to protect your battery. If the voltage at the reefer's input terminals drop below a preset value, the reefer shuts off and it won't restart until the voltage rises above another, higher, preset value. The values are in the manual in the Danfoss section and I don't have mine in front of me. But the point here is that if you have skinny wire feeding the reefer, resistive losses will cause the voltage at the reefer to be lower than at the battery. This can result in the thing shutting down prematurely. So use fat wire.

2. The reefer is set up very conservatively for the low-voltage shutdown and restart values. If you want to hit your battery more aggressively, the Danfoss section of the manual describes how you can lower the trigger points by use of a resistor between two terminals. It can even be set to ignore battery voltage and just keep running. I personally find the values too conservative and prefer to manage power manually (I'd like to be able to make the choice between protecting the battery or protecting a week's worth of food in the refrigerator myself) so I set it to a lower value. My van has good metering for voltage and battery state of charge.

3. On some models of the compressor you can set the compressor speed, and thus its cooling and its current draw, with another resistor. See the manual. It's unclear to me how this affects overall power usage over the period of a day; by that I mean you can dial back the compressor speed which results in less current being drawn while the compressor is running but of course the compressor has to run longer to achieve the same cooling. The default value might be at some sweet spot where compressor efficiency is best, or maybe not, the manufacturer would know, I don't. Someone would need to do some tests in a temperature-controlled environment.

4. On a recent trip Mrs Squirrel and I were driving in some darn hot weather, reckon it was about 100F inside the van. When we got to camp we found that it was 70F inside the cabinet and that the compressor was only coming on fitfully. Cycling power did not help. Then it seemed to recover and start cooling. Whew. Anyway, the compressor has a terminal on the back which can be hooked to an LED, and if the reefer goes into one of five fault modes, the lamp will flash in one of five different patterns. I mounted an LED to the facia of the reefer and pasted the flash/symptom chart inside the door so the next time it gets its panties in a bundle I can at least see what it's unhappy about.

5. The distributor is useless. I have emailed them twice with tech questions, one about a dead terminal on the compressor which is meant to provide regulated +12VDC for operation of the interior light -- the other time about some other thing, I forget -- and they never got back. Maybe they don't read so good and a phone call would have given results.

Hope this helps.

-- Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, Bend, Ore.

On 09/19/2012 07:40 AM, Larry Chase wrote: > Volks, > > Getting ready to pull the old Dometic Fridge and install one of the new DC units. > > Leaning towards the Truckfridge T-49 because I understand it's a little quieter than the Vitrifrigo C60i. > > Input, suggestions and/or data from current Truckfridge& Vitrifrigo users would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > larry chase > roadhaus.com


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