Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:10:03 -0600
Reply-To: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Random Instant Shutdown
In-Reply-To: <50808681.6020702@turbovans.com>
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Yup ~ but you are ignoring one important facet of it ~ I
StartEachWord within TheCompoundWord
with a Cap' to make it more readable ~ been doing it that way since I
got out of HighSchool ~ about 50yrs.
Some might call it sloppy, I prefer to view it as ArtistsLicense ~ I
think it's the AntiEstablishmentarianism
coming out in me.
Thanks for the info ~ I'm heading back to this Van tomorrow with
Spare ECU, FuelControlRelay, Dizzy
FuelPump & IgnitionSwitch in hand ~ will report back.
Oh ya ~ I also use TheCompoundWord style when naming or giving
something a title ~ as in TurboVans.
ORR ~ DeanB
On 18 Oct , 2012, at 4:45 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
> hi ...
> lol!
> is that how you emphasizethings ?? runthemalltogether
>
> if the fuel pump doesn't run when turning on the key,
> I would work on that for sure.
> likely suspect is the ECU.
> fuel pump relay possible but unlikley.
>
> for just shutting off, I would sure consider the distributor/hall
> sensor.
> fwiw, I have not seen that failure 'in flight' ..except for cutting
> out/jerking ..
> and not a clean shut off ...
> though it does match the symptom of a clean shut off.
>
> I figure we can expect that communication will just get sloppier and
> less clear as time goes on- apparently.
>
>
>
> On 10/18/2012 3:08 PM, OlRivrRat wrote:
>> That is correct ~
>> thefuelpumpdoesnotpreruneverytimethekeyisturnedon ~
>> Thanks for the ComeBack SD
>>
>> I take it you may not be fond of the way I choose to emphasize things
>>
>>
>> On 18 Oct , 2012, at 1:41 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>>
>>> maybesomeoneelsecandechiferthisjustwonderingonethingthefuelpumpdoesnotpreruneverytimethekeyisturnedon
>>>
>>> ?manitshardformeto writelikethisthespellchckerdoesn'tlikeiteither.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/18/2012 9:25 AM, OlRivrRat wrote:
>>>> Hey All Here's one for ya
>>>>
>>>> A NonMech' good friend has an '89 4spd2wd H2OBxr with
>>>> 217000mis ~ It
>>>> will start just fine & idle & run just fine for a Random period of
>>>>
>>>> time then instantly shutdown as if the key was turned off ~ then in
>>>> most cases it will start right back up again. On the occasions that
>>>> it
>>>> doesn't
>>>>
>>>> start right back up I can tell that the FuelPump is not doing the
>>>> PreStartRun but then after a few tries or a short wait does come on
>>>> when Key is
>>>>
>>>> turned to Start & will then FireUp&Run. I did some
>>>> "GroundsCleaning"
>>>> in the EngineArea & TranyStrap yesterday, unplugged, sprayed with
>>>> Elec'
>>>>
>>>> cleaner & replugged many of the connectors in the EngineBay, pulled
>>>> the FuelControlRelay & sprayed its spades & socket. It seemed as
>>>> though as
>>>>
>>>> time went on yesterday that each time I would FireItUp & let it
>>>> idle
>>>> it would run longer ~ 1st maybe 5-10min & last couple 20min then
>>>> 30-40min,
>>>>
>>>> with a total of maybe 8 Idles&ShutDowns during the 4hrs I spent
>>>> with
>>>> it ~ it wasn't running while I was cleaning but Before,
>>>> Interspersed &
>>>> After.
>>>>
>>>> While it is Idling it comes up to Temp fine (Needle ON
>>>> LowHalf of LED
>>>> most of the time) & the RadFan CyclesAsNeeded. This Van has spent a
>>>>
>>>> few weeks in the past month with MyFriends DailyDriverMech' (who is
>>>> not VanagonFamiliar) having its FuelFilter & AllFuelHoses
>>>> replaced &
>>>> some
>>>>
>>>> FrontEndWork done ~ He also experienced this SuddenShutDownSyndrome
>>>> but could not figure it out. AnyBody have any Ideas?
>>>>
>>>> ORR ~ DeanB
>>>>
>>>
>>
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