Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:17:15 -0800
Reply-To:     Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: map light: now Maps
In-Reply-To:  <20121107230349.MPRI2.85355.imail@eastrmwml303>
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  I use mostly maps.   But when I am in the city(s) without  a passenger to
help me find my way, trying to use a map is sometimes dangerous or
frustrating.

   I finally caved in and learned to use an android based GPS.   Big
improvement when driving alone in busy traffic on big freeways where you
are unfamiliar with the city...

 I still use maps to plan.mostly   Part of the fun of travel for me is to
look the map over before I begin and decide what might be the most
interesting way to get somewhere, then take that route the next day...

   But much as I've scoffed at navigation gizmos in the past, it is hard to
fault all  the  available 'help' in a small device.   I was in the Great
Southern Coastal Megaoplis...somewhere between Ensenada and Santa Barbra,
needed a bicycle shoe cleat, when somewhere near Escondido.   I go..."Bike
Shop, Escondido, California" into my phone and it pops out two....I pick
one and say..."Bike Bling, Escondido" (honest, that was the shop's name)
and my device guided me right there without any problem.

  On the other hand, there are things like dead batteries and no
reception.   Maps don't have those problems...but my California Atlas has a
few pages ripped out or unreadable ....And my Washington State one is kinda
moldy and damp about now....

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:

> I have never had a map tell me to drive up a set of stairs like my
> friend's GPS did in Berkeley, CA.  Really.  For those who don't know, in
> Berkeley there are named walkways.  Some of them are stairs up a hillside.
>  Whoever loaded the data from Berkeley into the GPS didn't know that.
>
> I use maps.  They are a lot more interesting, and can be consulted by
> anyone, any time.  But, we've had this discussion on this list before.
>  There is no "winning" outcome.  Some fail to see the intellectual beauty
> in using maps.  Others fail to see the fun in being told by a machine what
> to do without having an understanding of the fundamental lay of the land,
> so to speak.  Never the twain shall meet.
>
> mcneely
>
> ---- Ellen in Oregon <elleninoregon@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > Who uses maps?  A lot of us!  I've been all over this country with only
> a paper map to guide me.  How do you think we got from point A to point B
> before GPS came along?
> >
> > Ellen
> > Lola, '85 Vanagon ASI camper,
> > (who has a US Atlas in the passenger seat pocket, and Oregon &
> Washington state maps in the glove box)
> >
> > ‘Be Content with what you have; rejoice in the way things are. When you
> > realize there is nothing lacking, the whole world belongs to you.’ ~Lao
> Tzu
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 01:59:16 +0000
> > > From: fonman4277@COMCAST.NET
> > > Subject: Re: map light
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > >
> > > Sorry Folks, I accidentally sent an empty message. What I meant to say
> was why all this talk of a map light? GPS!! Who uses maps anymore? Jeff
> Stewart ----- Original Message -----
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
>
> --
> David McNeely
>