Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 11:13:14 -0500
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: '89 auto trans final drive questions
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You have "brass" flakes in the final drive? For the o-rings on the final
drive bearing carriers to leak they most likely were damaged upon
installation or at some point things had to overheat real bad for these
rings to fail later. For the output flanges it is normal for there to be
some axial (in-out) play. There should be no noticeable radial (circular)
play. It there is the seal doesn't have much of a chance. Most axle leaks on
these are due to overfilling or the breather(s) being blocked. As things
heat up if the pressure can't get out the oil is going past the seals.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Ray Brubaker
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:14 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: '89 auto trans final drive questions
Thanks for the replies. With the sump off it was clear that the main bearing
were still tight, it is the flange attached to its drive gear that has play.
The oil was pretty clean with only a small amount of brass flakes and a
little fuzz on the magnet so I think it will run a while yet.
I changed the flange seal on one side, drove it today, and checked to find
that it is leaking about the same on that side. Is it likely that this leak
is from the oring sealing the bearing support? Has anyone succeeded in
sealing this from the outside with some type of sealant instead of taking it
apart to change the oring?
Thanks for any help,
Ray
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> Hi Ray,
> I don't see that anyone has aaddressed your post yet...
>
> in my experience ..it's not the side bearings ..
> it's the output flange being loose on the splined shaft it sits on.
>
> in two cases I just tried another less-worn output flange and that
> took care of it.
> My recommendation is never touch the side bearings adjustment.
> - maybe if you knew it was in really bad shape there and were just
> trying to get a few more miles .
> but otherwise..
> that's a critical adjustment. It affects ring gear left-right
> position and gear contact pattern on the pinion gear, and preload
> there too. So no-touchey ever in my book, unless you are doing a
> whole set up on the R & P and you really know what you are doing.
>
> 80 W 90 GL-5 sounds good to me for the final drive section.
> I wouldn't use the MT-90 there. ..it's a GL-4 for syncronizers .
>
> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
>
> On 11/6/2012 7:26 PM, Ray Brubaker wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm putting a '89 auto trans Wolfsburg back on the road. I am planning
> to change the drive shaft seals for leakage and noticed that there is
> a noticable amount of side and end play in the out put flange.Is this
> normal or is this from some wear in the diff bearings? I am going to
> pull the pan to change the oil and see inside and can check better if
> these bearing are loose. If there is some looseness but no significant
> metal in the oil should I tighten them up by adjusting both sides
> equally? Is there something else that would cause this looseness?
>
> The Bentley calls for SAE90 oil for the final drive, what is the
> current recommendation to use here? Is an 80W-90 GL-5 good. I have
> some Redline
> MT-90 that I probably bought around '06, would this be a good choice?
>
> I didn't find anything in the archives on these subjects, but maybe I
> didn't search right.
>
> Thanks for any input,
>
> Ray
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