Frank Just to make You happy I just reread the LubricationSpecs in the OwnersManuals of both my 83.5 & 90 Westys & in fact in the SingleWeight columns SAE50 is not even mentioned ~ SAE40 is the recommended Oil for Temps from 70º on up off the end of the chart. SAE **w-50 is indicated in the MultiGrade columns but shares the Temp'Range with SAE **w-40. SAE10, 5w-30 & 5w-20 are even recommended under certain conditions. Certainly in an OldEngine there might be a need to run SAE50 under some Temp' conditions but I would let my OilPressure be my guide not necessarily a manual that was written 22 - 29yrs ago. I would run nothing but 0w40 in my H2OBoxr if Valvoline made it but the thinest they go is 5w40 so that works for me. I know that Mobil1 comes in 0w40 but I just did an unscientific 3000mi test of Mob1 0w30 in my 90Westys EJ25 & experienced some goofy O'P's so I won't ever use or recommend Mobil1 again. ORR ~ DeanB On 23 Nov , 2012, at 3:13 AM, Frank Condelli wrote: > Sorry, but this is completely WRONG ! AND, I can't empathize > this WRONG enough. Once the engine is fully up to operating > temperature the oil MUST be 50w, read your specs in the owners > manual. The engine does not know it's cold outside EXCEPT when > starting. That's were the dilemma is and that's were the damage is > done. Too thick an oil at cold start up will wear life off of the > bearings and other moving parts that do not get lubricated until the > oil get warm an starts to flow properly. You will not know this > until the engine wear's out prematurely and you then ask why ? > That's why there are block heaters and heated garages to start > engines in cold temperatures. So…….what to do: using the > recommended 20w50 dino oil, you need a block heater or heated garage > or move to a warmer climate. 0w50, 10w50,15w50 synthetic will work > well without the use of the block heater or heated garage but I > myself and me would still like to have that block warmed up before > starting MY engine ! Prematurely worn engine = BIG BUCKS ! You'd > think this was the first winter for these antique Vans ! > > > On 2012-11-22, at 3:12 PM, Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > wrote: > >> Heading into WinterWeatherConditions in Northern Michigan I = >> would not =20 >> be >> >> the least bit worried about leaving the 5w30 in there as long as >> you =20 >> are sure that >> >> your OilPressureSensor is in good working order so as to keep you =20 >> properly informed. >> >> I am of the opinion that oil that is overly thick is harder on an =20 >> engine than oil that is >> >> a bit on the thin side as the thick stuff might not be able to get >> =20 >> into all areas that it >> >> is needed. I have a Subaru engine in my 90Westy now but back in 09 >> =20 >> just before I >> >> did the swap I ran my 2.1H2OBoxr on 5w30 for 3000mi without any >> issues =20= >> >> during >> >> the hottest months of the year here in NM & for curiosity & =20 >> PeaceOfMind I had the >> >> OilPressure professionally checked & it was just fine ~ my H2OBoxr >> did =20= >> >> have 120K >> >> fewer miles than yours though. I normally ran that engine on 10w40 >> & =20 >> would never >> >> run anything thicker than that unless I was experiencing low O'P' =20 >> issues. >> >> ORR ~ DeanB > > > > Cheers, > > Frank Condelli > Almonte, Ontario, Canada > '87 VW Westy, '00 Kawasaki 250 Sherpa, "98 Ducati 750 Monster & > Lionel Trains (Collection for sale) > Frank Condelli & Associates - Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in > the Ottawa Valley > Vanagon Stainless Steel Exhaust Systems > BusFusion a VW Camper camping event, Almonte, ON, June 06 ~ 09, 2013 |
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