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Date:         Fri, 7 Dec 2012 07:16:14 -0500
Reply-To:     phishman068@GMAIL.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Craig Cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oil Change. Zetec
Comments: To: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
In-Reply-To:  <A8E29392-7E10-4258-8EB9-171DC2ED10BF@shaw.ca>
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Hmm.... I guess you guys don't believe in or have experience with oil testing? Perhaps you didn't notice that piece of info where I said I have had the oil tested and its been passing?

I no longer believe in service intervals assigned to the masses when testing and good science can prove the exact conditions on an individual basis.

One of the marine Diesel engines on a boat I run has 26gallons of expensive and specialized oil. We do not change it because "it's time", we change it because tests tell us it's time. The same can apply to a vehicle, an oil change just doesn't cost thousands of dollars in the case of the Zetec.

I'm not throwing away good oil, and so far I've proven in my application the service interval is infact a great deal higher than what's "suggested".

-craig

On Dec 7, 2012, at 12:23 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA> wrote:

> Yeah, you're right Bob, was just another one of those silly threads that should be ignored. > > cheers > > alistair > > > On 2012-12-06, at 8:28 PM, Robert Stevens wrote: > >> On Dec 6, 2012, at 9:10 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA> wrote: >> >> I agree with Scott. This has to be one of the most stupid threads ever on the list. What the heck is wrong with changing oil on the solstices and equinoxes? >> >> If you drive your shoebox of a van all year round it is the least you can do for it. >> >> Folk fuss over so many other aspects of Vanagon ownership and then cheap out on oil? Even if you think Zetec engines are easily and cheaply replaced, do you really want a breakdown due to bad oil when on a trip? >> >> but .... if you take a look at the direction that this thread took, it became much more about one list member >> making presumptions about the "replacement" cost of the Bostig "kit", THEN the replacement cost of the engine >> aspect of the thread emerged. Making presumptions (read: believing one's internal dialogue) vs collecting >> factual information, THEN making an informed statement/posting an inquiry, without which will always result >> in unnecessary and useless distractions to what could have been an informative, and simple, and BRIEF discussion. >> >> It is actually Scott's erroneous conclustion that the cost of a replacement Zetec, had directly to do with >> scrimping on oil changes, which was never brought up during the course of this thread, except by him ... a simple >> thinking error. >> >> bob


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