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Date:         Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:52:36 -0800
Reply-To:     Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fire!
Comments: To: Dick Wong <sailingfc@DSLEXTREME.COM>
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Brake fluid isn't likely to be the source of the fire. Gas is, and the fire burned the slave hose. Something popped off or leaked, and at 30 psi you can pump a lot of gas before you turn off the key. Since the first thing you noticed was the failed clutch, the fire likely started on that side near the slave.

Today any engine fire would total a modern car which is why the fireman said that, but you can salvage your syncro, it's just a matter of time and money. "Total loss" applies to damage exceeding fair market value for insurance. You may be able to have your insurance company "total" the vehicle, pay you FMV or stated value, and you buy it back for salvage value. Then you'll have the funds to fix it. I've done this once in the past.

Good luck!

Stuart

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dick Wong Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:37 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Fire!

I'm okay.

Early November I bought my first Vanagon. 1987 GL Syncro with a Audi/VW 2.5L I5 conversion.

Today I had an engine fire.

Coming to a stop on a freeway off ramp the clutch pedal goes to the floor without disengaging. Step on it again and same results. Van is lurching forward because the clutch won't release. Hitting the brake slowed it but I can feel the engine pushing forward. I shut off the ignition to bring it to a stop. I look in my mirrors and see smoke coming from the rear air intakes. I hop out in the middle of the road and run to the back hoping it might only be steam. No luck, it's stinky smoke and starting to turn black. I get my cell phone and dial 911. I stand there and watch flames starting to come from the bottom of the engine. More black smoke. I think to myself, I am going to watch my "new" Syncro burn to the ground. All of a sudden there is a loud hiss and the smoke turns to white steam and water is streaming from the engine. The coolant tank melted and sprayed coolant on to the fire and put it out. Shortly after an highway patrol pull up. A few minutes later the fire truck arrives.

Not a nice day.

My theory is: Clutch hose or the slave had a catastrophic failure and when I stepped on the clutch, the brake fluid sprayed out on to the exhaust piping (exhaust runs forward on the driver side). The fluid flashed and started burning.

It's sitting in my driveway now. I'll start looking at the damages another day. I'm too depressed to do anything now. Fireman said that it might be a total loss.

-Dick Wong- 78 Scirocco Original Owner 87 Syncro 2.5 Third Owner 12 Golf TDI Original Co-Owner


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