Date:         Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:28:27 -0800
Reply-To:     Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
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From:         Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Subject:      Re: Was E15 fuel, now Snake Oil
Comments: To: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
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Tom,

What detergent is used in Cascade dishwashing gel or powder?

http://www.pg.com/productsafety/msds/fabric_and_homecare/dishwashing_products/Cascade_Gel_Phosphate_Free.pdf

I don't see a detergent listed in the msds of phosphate free gel,  has it other ingredients that help in cleaning dishes and have no place in a cooling system. such as bleach, sodium carbonate, sodium hydroxide.

I'm sure you can find a better surfactant source.

alistair


On 2012-12-27, at 8:43 AM, Tom Hargrave wrote:

> Yes, Water Wetter is a surfactant - it reduces the surface tension of water
> so that it gets closer to metal parts like the inside of your radiator
> tubes, the water side of your heads & cylinders etc. Cascade is also a
> surfactant, also known as a detergent.
> 
> Thanks, Tom Hargrave
> www.stir-plate.com
> www.towercooler.com
> www.kegkits.com
> www.grow-sun.com
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alistair Bell [mailto:albell@shaw.ca] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 9:19 AM
> To: Tom Hargrave
> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Was E15 fuel, now Snake Oil
> 
> Cascade? As in dishwasher detergent?
> 
> "shakes head "
> 
> 
> alistair
> 
> 
> On 2012-12-27, at 6:50 AM, Tom Hargrave wrote:
> 
>> I mistrust any product that claims to solve a long list of mechanical 

>> issues and Marvel Mystery Oil is one of these products.
>> 
>> Actually, there are only a few additives I do trust:
>> 
>> Dry gas (methanol) to remove water from the bottom of fuel tanks, 
>> probably not needed now.
>> Any one of the oil thickeners, but only to push a few more miles out 

>> of a tired engine.
>> WD-40, but only to be used as intended - WD-40 is not a lubricant!
>> Gas additives with Chevron's Techroline - nothing else is proven to work.
>> Conklin Dyke Stop Leak to temporarily stop a cooling system leak - 
>> only because I know first-hand that this product actually works.
>> Water Wetter, but I discovered a half teaspoon of Cascade works as well.
>> 
>> Also, all DO3 brake fluid should be replaced with Dot4 brake fluid.
>> 
>> For everything else that does work, regular service is a much better &
> 
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