Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 00:08:28 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: e15
In-Reply-To: <dd3eba$9v4bqn@out02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
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Hey that's great to hear you have 7 old VW's !
Mine are all vanagons, more than 7.
I mainly want to say that with today's 10 % ethanol gasoline I am just
not having any problems.
I douse good fuel treatments now and then..
I wouldn't dream of picking up some runing gasoline vanagon and not at
least treating the fuel right away.
I like Lucas brand fuel injector cleaner..
I swear by SeaFoam as a great fuel treatment ..gas or diesel ,
I use Stay-bil sometimes.
I put Marvel mystery oil in gas sometimes.... as 'fuel system lubricant'
which it says right on the jug.
oh...fuel filters . Those are often neglected. I have seen syncro's
where the owner didn't even know where the fuel filter was, and no one
had changed it in , no kidding ..as much as 15 years.
Gasoline cars I don't consider too critical about fuel filters..they're
fairly tolerant ..
in any case ....when you take one off, empty it out backwards on a clean
dish and see what's in there.
That's useful info.
diesels ...they are quite sentive to fuel filters and anytime there is
any starting/running weirdness ..go right to fuel filter.And don't leave
on a trip without a spare fuel filte.r .
I recomend a fuel additive in pump diesel fuel *always.*
anyway ...it'd damp and cold where I am , and I'm just not having any
real gasoline fuel problems..
nothing that normal , normal for me anyway ..care and attention can't
stay on top of.
I don't let anything sit around 'forever'.
The very worst thing you can do for a vehicle or engine is just let it sit.
They are designed to be used and driven.
on that Dennis recommendation to keep a tank full, when there is no or
little use, then drain off that old gas ..
where do ya get rid of that gas ?
the only convenient thing I can think of is burn ait a little bit at a
time in another vehicle.
As far as I know , 10 to 15 gallons of old gasoline is not an easy thing
to get rid of.
Fuel treatments and addtives DO seem to help a lot to me.
Letting any engine with untreated fuel in it just sit ....don't want to
do that too long, especially in winter.
I prefer to keep not too much gas in a seldom-used vehicle...
cause it's hard to use up say 10 gallons if you don't drive or run the
thing very much ,
and Ihavn't found condensation to really be that much a problem ..though
water sure should be condensing into mosty empty fuel tanks ...I'm still
not having a problem ..maybe it'st he 10 % ethanol.
scott
On 12/27/2012 7:05 AM, Jonce Fancher wrote:
> To Help the Economy you make the fuel kill your vehicle to make you
> purchase another, Get your clunker off the road and buy into the NEW
> vehicle. Just helps all of us. For a fun read try Agenda 21 or just
> watch videos on it.
> I just love my old VWs. I have 7 and want to keep them forever. I
> just don't like my government dictating what I can and can not have
> and trying to destroy my personal freedoms on what I can and can not
> drive and just make life harder till I cave in.
> I want to keep my Vanagon on the road as long as humanly possible. I
> still think it is one of the most thought out and desirable vehicles
> I have ever owned and will do what it takes to make it go.
> Sorry I do not want to get the government into this OR the
> ecomentalists wanting to hunt me down. I just think I should be able
> to purchase fuel that would help my vehicle run without damaging the
> internals. I do think some things that are changed are good, BUT
> there is always a counter reaction and at times you just don't see it.
> Having 1.5 to 2 Gallons of Fuel dryer in my tank per fill up is a bit
> much. I know what I pay in groceries and Fuel and Taxes. I also know
> what I live in Michigan and wet condensation and humidity that many
> on this list have never experienced living in dry climates.
> I hope everyone takes this with a grain of salt, Just don't take one
> side of the story is all. There are ALWAYS 2 sides and the issue is
> many times you only get 1, and getting it from only 1 Biased source
> does not by any means mean your getting the truth.
> Also Results in Arizona are much different then Ohio and even Brazil.
> I have been to Brazil and the rain forest, It is nothing like Arizona
> Or Michigan / Ohio.
>
> All in good fun! Happy Holidays and Happy New year. Keeping the OLD
> VW alive yet another year!!
>
> Jonce Fancher
>
> www.fanchers.com
> 56 Single Cab
> 66 Square back
> 66 Sunroof Bug
> 66 Porsche 912
> 71 Sunroof Bus
> 78 Convertible Bug
> 85 Vanagon Westy Zetec
> 1 Understanding wife 2 Kids and Molly ( Beagle / Terrier Mix )
>
>
>> scott,
>> i suspect your are in a dryer climate with smaller temp swings than
>> we are here in ohio.
>> we get condensation so bad it drips off of cars at certain times.
>> motorcycle tanks around here being eaten alive with corrosion and on
>> older bikes the rubber parts are disintegrating. Unfortunately the
>> Japanese have not changed their rubber compounds so your 10 dollar o
>> ring is gone in 6 months. There is no alcohol free gas within 100
>> miles of here.
>> I poured out a quarter cup of water from a lawnmower that is used
>> every 2 weeks. The only way to fight it is to run as low as possible
>> all the time
>> keep the least amount in the tank. Google gasohol phase change! What
>> a joke! On the eco modders forum a fellow took 5 gallons of gas and
>> ran the miles covered that he got from it then he took the alcohol
>> out of exactly the same gas and ran what was left over the same
>> course and got more miles from a lesser amount of fuel. this test
>> was repeated several times with the same results. I am getting a hit
>> of about 2 mpg on my 85 westy. that and lots of small engine
>> problems mean I am out of pocket several hundred dollars a year, not
>> to count how much of the taxes are going to subsidise the food based
>> ethanol and the rise in corn prices which affects most other food
>> prices, notice any rise in your grocery bill?
>> rant over
>> mike
>
