Date:         Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:21:54 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Schematic needed, starter issue, Old school stuff
Comments: To: TJ Hemrick <x53gunner@GMAIL.COM>
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it's exceptionaly easy to wire in a 'starter booster relay.'

the Ford solenoid is overkill, by far .
what you need is any common, usually square bosch typerelay that will
carry suffecient current, which is not much.

if you look in Bentley where they show the relays on yor 87 ...
the onethat's called Load Reduction Relay ..
that's the type and style you need.
I would just buy one from Van Cafe.

the diagram you want is often right on the side of the relay.
if there are 4 contacts,
two are for the tiny magentic coil in the relay ..I call that the
'triggering circuit'
the other two are the load circuit.
one side will go to battery hot ...like on thestarter solenoid where the
battery cable bolts on ..
the other will be attached to your exisiting 'starter trigger wire'
coming from the ign switch.

I like Ford solenoids a lot ...but not for this application.
I call them a 'ford fender solenoild' as they are on the right front
inner fender of a jillion
Fords, like from te 50's to the70's.

scott
www.turbovans.com

On 1/10/2013 10:24 AM, TJ Hemrick wrote:
> All,
>    Does anyone have a copy of an old Gene Berg Catalog?  I need a copy of
> the schematic for how to wire the "Starter assist" or what ever name he
> used back then.  It was nothing more than an old Ford remote starter
> solenoid wired to boost the power to the starter on VW's since the current
> flow is a long and torturous path designed by the evil and wicked Dr. Bosch
> way back in the day.  Anyhow, put your flames away and you electronic guys,
> sit back down, I don't want you to get all upset and lecture me on how this
> or that flows and clean grounds....   I just need a copy of that page from
> his old catalog.  For the life of me, now that I have time, all the parts,
> and some cold frosty beverage, I can't find the damn book!  My 87 GL is
> parked outside begging me to work on it and I'm tired of looking all over
> the shop and the house for that thing...  Always something...
>
> Thanks,
>
> TJ
>