Date:         Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:24:28 -0800
Reply-To:     Don Hundt <donhundt@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Don Hundt <donhundt@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO - LT195/75R14/D tires - first
              impressions
Comments: To: mcneely4@cox.net
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Actually, Dave,
In the winter, in Oregon, there are times when chains are required on all
vehicles, there are times when chains OR traction tires are required, and
there are times when one is just required to carry chains, any tire will
suffice.
Yes, I agree that if one were to use a non-marked tire as a traction tire,
he would be violating the law some of the time. Personally, as adriver with
30 years experience in snow country, including daily drives over a mountain
pass, I would not hesitate to use siped BFG's as a winter tire, snowflake or
no. Yes, I would be in violation the ~20% of the time the passes require
traction tires. I'm not recommending them to you, necessarily, but I would
use them myself. You do whatever you wish.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: <mcneely4@cox.net>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>; "Don Hundt" <donhundt@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Re: BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO - LT195/75R14/D tires - first
impressions


> ---- Don Hundt <donhundt@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Apparently, it is just that size that doesn't bear the snowflake label. I
>> have had the BFG's in many sizes on many vehicles, they all had the
>> snowflake labels. I'd be willing to bet that if a state trooper in Oregon
>> saw that you were running that tire he wouldn't kneel down in the snow to
>> look for a little black snowflake label on your tire. YMMV
>>
>> Even if you have snow tires, the state of Oregon requires you to carry
>> tire
>> chains if you are driving over mountain passes.
>
> That is true.  But at times that chains are not required to be installed
> to cross the passes, the traction tire is.  It seems pretty easy to
> understand that.  At those times, non-traction tires are illegal.  BFG
> lists on its web site for the tire the sizes that are not approved for
> severe snow conditions.  There are multiple sizes listed.  Perhaps a
> trooper would not check for the snowflake/mountain symbol, but if he did
> and you did not have it, you would be in violation.  And, if that is the
> standard, why not adhere to it, for safety's sake?
>
> mcneely
>> Don