Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 12:39:06 -0600
Reply-To: ralph meyermann <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM>
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From: ralph meyermann <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO - LT195/75R14/D tires - first
impressions
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the bfg's appearance is the basic snow tire pattern with dog bone shaped
blocks instead of the rectangle shape? With their appearance they probably
wont even look for the snowflake,but there are those nit picky enforcement
types just looking to get ya out there!
Velma 82 na diesel westy
On Jan 8, 2013 12:27 PM, "Don Hundt" <donhundt@gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually, Dave,
> In the winter, in Oregon, there are times when chains are required on all
> vehicles, there are times when chains OR traction tires are required, and
> there are times when one is just required to carry chains, any tire will
> suffice.
> Yes, I agree that if one were to use a non-marked tire as a traction tire,
> he would be violating the law some of the time. Personally, as adriver with
> 30 years experience in snow country, including daily drives over a mountain
> pass, I would not hesitate to use siped BFG's as a winter tire, snowflake
> or
> no. Yes, I would be in violation the ~20% of the time the passes require
> traction tires. I'm not recommending them to you, necessarily, but I would
> use them myself. You do whatever you wish.
> Don
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <mcneely4@cox.net>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>; "Don Hundt" <donhundt@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 10:07 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO - LT195/75R14/D tires -
> first
> impressions
>
>
> ---- Don Hundt <donhundt@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently, it is just that size that doesn't bear the snowflake label. I
>>> have had the BFG's in many sizes on many vehicles, they all had the
>>> snowflake labels. I'd be willing to bet that if a state trooper in Oregon
>>> saw that you were running that tire he wouldn't kneel down in the snow to
>>> look for a little black snowflake label on your tire. YMMV
>>>
>>> Even if you have snow tires, the state of Oregon requires you to carry
>>> tire
>>> chains if you are driving over mountain passes.
>>>
>>
>> That is true. But at times that chains are not required to be installed
>> to cross the passes, the traction tire is. It seems pretty easy to
>> understand that. At those times, non-traction tires are illegal. BFG
>> lists on its web site for the tire the sizes that are not approved for
>> severe snow conditions. There are multiple sizes listed. Perhaps a
>> trooper would not check for the snowflake/mountain symbol, but if he did
>> and you did not have it, you would be in violation. And, if that is the
>> standard, why not adhere to it, for safety's sake?
>>
>> mcneely
>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>
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