Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:28:21 -0700
Reply-To: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Broken Head Bolt
In-Reply-To: <50F86130.7090801@turbovans.com>
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Ooops ~ forgot that those are studs ~ BODM ~ so its probably/possibly
in there pretty good ~
ORR ~ DeanB
On 17 Jan , 2013, at 1:38 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
> hi..
> stud not bolt actually.
> you're lucky if an inch is sticking out.
>
> personally my first attempt would involve gentle heating and a vice
> grips..
> or a 'real' stud removal tool...though the diameter of the stud is
> smallish for one of those and there's not much room around the stud
> for
> the tool probably.
> if you see an automotive tool truck I'd see what they have for a stud
> removal tool.
>
> drilling and taping is hardly and option with the engine assembled.
> or 'barely.'
> I'd sure start treating it with penetrating oil a lot right away.
> and I have had luck with a spray can of juice that freezes things .
>
> did you make sure the nuts were smoothturning on the studs before
> assembling things ?
> and do you think your torque wrench is fairly accurate ?
>
> this is about the last thing you ever want to happen with a wbxr
> engine.
> I've spent hours getting a nut off that seemed too stuck on the stud.
>
> might also inspect the bottoms of all the studs for corrosion ..
> incase others are ready to break also.
>
> scott
>
>
>
> On 1/17/2013 8:57 AM, Bob Anderson wrote:
>> Need some advice!
>> This morning I was replacing one of the head gaskets, on my 2.1
>> vanagon engine, everything was going fine until I was torquing
>> down the head bolts and one of them snapped and my heart sank...not
>> a good feeling.
>> I quickly removed the head and cleaned up everything including the
>> rubber gasket and then just sat there assessing what just happened
>> and asking myself "Now what am I going to do"?
>> The bolt snapped off pretty low leaving about an inch.
>> This is my first attempt at replacing the head gaskets and just
>> learning as I go and I know there's a lot of experienced members of
>> this forum and I'm hoping that you all might have some good advice
>> for me.
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>> Boston, MA
>>
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>> Subject: vanagon Digest - 16 Jan 2013 (#2013-30)
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>> There are 4 messages totalling 322 lines in this issue.
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>> Topics of the day:
>>
>> 1. =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFZ1aFZhbmFnb24uY29t?=
>> 2. Vanagon fix on a rainy Wednesday (2)
>> 3. VuhVanagon.com
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:40:19 -0500
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:01:47 -0800
>> From: Richard Koerner
>> Subject: Re: Vanagon fix on a rainy Wednesday
>>
>> Google Street view shows nice cardboard sun shields in all street
>> facing Va=
>> nagons, and most likely all of them; this guy is cool to preserve
>> these bab=
>> ies!=A0 And waaaay in the background is probably his house....a
>> white Vanag=
>> on in the driveway.=A0 Also, some sort of England high top van near
>> the for=
>> eground.=A0 How did he get all of these?=A0 How much invested?=A0
>> Who's buy=
>> ing them after restored?=A0 Anybody on The List?=A0 Is this guy in
>> VA on li=
>> st?=A0 He should be!=A0 Sure would be nice to know the whole story.
>>
>> Rich
>> San Diego
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 1/16/13, george jannini wrote:
>>
>> From: george jannini
>> Subject: Re: Vanagon fix on a rainy Wednesday
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 5:32 PM
>>
>> Location of http://www.vuhvanagon.com/=A0 is on US 11, Pulaski VA.
>>
>> Pump 1011 Old Lee Highway, Pulaski, VA into Google Maps click on
>> Street
>> View and have a look.
>>
>> Geo/ATL
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Stephen Grisanti wrote=
>> :
>>
>>> Interesting.=A0 I've been by that spot many times on the way up
>>> U.S. 340 =
>> to
>>> Wayne Cycle in Waynesboro but I never noticed that place.=A0 Must
>>> not hav=
>> e
>>> been doing the Vanagons ten years ago when I made that run.=A0
>>> I'll be su=
>> re
>>> to check next trip.=A0 Thanks for the heads up.
>>> I have seen some vans at the CJ Bugg place on U.S. 250 just west
>>> of there=
>> ,
>>> and occasionally one or two at the Nethken place by the Augusta
>>> County
>>> Expo, visible from I-64.
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 1/16/13, Harold Teer wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Harold Teer
>>> Subject: Re: Vanagon fix on a rainy Wednesday
>>> To: "Stephen Grisanti"
>>> Cc: "list"
>>> Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 2:25 PM
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Stephen Grisanti
>>> wrote:
>>> ............You might be aware of the infamous Vanagon place in
>>> Pulaski, Virginia.
>>>
>>>
>>> Stephen,
>>>
>>> The owner of those Vanagons sends a lot of them to an automotive
>>> garage
>>> by the name of GOLDWrench (http://www.goldwrenchauto.com/) in
>>> Waynesboro,
>>> VA.=A0 If you drive by the place, you almost always see 10-15 vans
>>> waitin=
>> g to
>>> be repaired/restored/whatever you call it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Harold
>>>
>>> Harold Teer
>>> 1991 Westy
>>> Harrisonburg, VA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.latimes.com/videogallery/70309490/News/...rcial-yard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:25:07 -0700
>> From: OlRivrRat
>> Subject: Re: Vanagon fix on a rainy Wednesday
>>
>> Didn't take the time to StreetView it earlier but both
>> GoogleEarth &
>> GoogleMaps show
>>
>> a WholeBunch more Vanagons there they show in the view from above ~
>> Which image would
>>
>> you suppose is the more recent ~~~
>>
>> ORR ~ DeanB
>>
>> On 16 Jan , 2013, at 6:32 PM, george jannini wrote:
>>
>>> Location of http://www.vuhvanagon.com/ is on US 11, Pulaski VA.
>>>
>>> Pump 1011 Old Lee Highway, Pulaski, VA into Google Maps click on
>>> Street
>>> View and have a look.
>>>
>>> Geo/ATL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Stephen Grisanti
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting. I've been by that spot many times on the way up U.S.
>>>> 340 to
>>>> Wayne Cycle in Waynesboro but I never noticed that place. Must not
>>>> have
>>>> been doing the Vanagons ten years ago when I made that run. I'll
>>>> be sure
>>>> to check next trip. Thanks for the heads up.
>>>> I have seen some vans at the CJ Bugg place on U.S. 250 just west of
>>>> there,
>>>> and occasionally one or two at the Nethken place by the Augusta
>>>> County
>>>> Expo, visible from I-64.
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>> --- On Wed, 1/16/13, Harold Teer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Harold Teer
>>>> Subject: Re: Vanagon fix on a rainy Wednesday
>>>> To: "Stephen Grisanti"
>>>> Cc: "list"
>>>> Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 2:25 PM
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Stephen Grisanti
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> ............You might be aware of the infamous Vanagon place in
>>>> Pulaski, Virginia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stephen,
>>>>
>>>> The owner of those Vanagons sends a lot of them to an automotive
>>>> garage
>>>> by the name of GOLDWrench (http://www.goldwrenchauto.com/) in
>>>> Waynesboro,
>>>> VA. If you drive by the place, you almost always see 10-15 vans
>>>> waiting to
>>>> be repaired/restored/whatever you call it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Harold
>>>>
>>>> Harold Teer
>>>> 1991 Westy
>>>> Harrisonburg, VA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.latimes.com/videogallery/70309490/News/...rcial-yard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:44:42 -0600
>> From: JRodgers
>> Subject: Re: VuhVanagon.com
>>
>> In Alabama, even if you are the most redneck of rednecks - with
>> your car
>> in front of your house trailer sitting up on blocks with the engine
>> out
>> after the car died - if you have a title, it is supposed have
>> current
>> registration and if registered must have a current tag or license.
>> If it
>> is licensed, it must have liability insurance. The annual tag
>> serves as
>> the property tax. Of course nobody with a vehicle up on blocks ever
>> does
>> all that - but it is the law! Screwy!
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 1/16/2013 7:03 PM, kimbrennan@mac.com wrote:
>>> Haven't checked on Pulaski county, but many other counties in
>>> Virginia require you to pay personal property tax on vehicles
>>> regardless of whether they are titled or road worthy. Can add up
>>> to quite a bit of change. Like Chris says, local govts aren't
>>> necessarily auto enthusiast friendly.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Jamie Fitterer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Amazing. So a guy wants to have a hobby to fix up and sell a few
>>>> vans and big brother or business has to come along and stomp on
>>>> you. Although, this example is a little absurd I am referring
>>>> more towards if a person wanted to just sell one or two a year.
>>>> And that somehow hurts used car dealers that want nothing to do
>>>> with VW Vanagons? Some state require 50 - 100K bonds to be able
>>>> to sell only one or two.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:55:44 -0500
>>>>> From: JordanVw@AOL.COM
>>>>> Subject: VuhVanagon.com
>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 1/16/2013 2:07:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>> Rubatoguy@COMCAST.NET writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> And apparently the city went after him because they claimed he
>>>>> was an
>>>>> unlicenced auto dealer:
>>>>>
>>>>> _http://www.southwesttimes.com/2009/12/archive-4281/_
>>>>> (http://www.southwesttimes.com/2009/12/archive-4281/)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the mistake kevin made was buying a property that was right in
>>>>> the middle
>>>>> of town on a main road. if he had bought a farm in the
>>>>> country off a main
>>>>> road in the middle of nowhere, nobody would have complained.
>>>>>
>>>>> i went thru something similar a few yrs ago as some of y'all may
>>>>> remember.
>>>>> the most vanagons ive ever had at one time was about 25 -30 or
>>>>> so at my
>>>>> folks farm. you couldn't even see them from the road, they
>>>>> were all neatly
>>>>> lined up like kevins.. but..it just took one person to make a
>>>>> call to the
>>>>> township and that was it. it was a way for them to make
>>>>> money on the
>>>>> fines so they jumped on it like flies on poo.... "fine" with
>>>>> me, i sold the
>>>>> westys and parted out the rest. i saved what i could but a lot
>>>>> of good
>>>>> stuff went to the crusher as i was under a time constraint.
>>>>> made some money
>>>>> back at the local scrapper when i hauled them over the scale,
>>>>> but mostly it
>>>>> was a loss because scrap metal was down then. such is
>>>>> life. i just
>>>>> have 3 runners now and one parts van for my own use. my vanagon
>>>>> collecting days are over! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> chris
>>>>> '89 westy
>>>>> '84 sunroof wolfsburg
>>>>> '85 doka
>>>>> and one '85 parts van.
>>>>> that's it!!
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> End of vanagon Digest - 16 Jan 2013 (#2013-30)
>> **********************************************
>>
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