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Date:         Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:02:57 -0700
Reply-To:     OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Broken Head Bolt
Comments: To: ROBERTANDERSON294@COMCAST.NET
In-Reply-To:  <776481961.39391.1358441837362.JavaMail.root@sz0201a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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Do you mean that there is an inch of bolt that is visible? If so then it should be fairly easy to remove with

pliers or maybe even fingers as there should be little to no forces being exerted on the threads now.

Then just get a new one ~ all new ones if you are trying to use the old ones ~ & try again

ORR ~ DeanB

On 17 Jan , 2013, at 9:57 AM, Bob Anderson wrote:

> Need some advice! > This morning I was replacing one of the head gaskets, on my 2.1 > vanagon engine, everything was going fine until I was torquing down > the head bolts and one of them snapped and my heart sank...not a > good feeling. > I quickly removed the head and cleaned up everything including the > rubber gasket and then just sat there assessing what just happened > and asking myself "Now what am I going to do"? > The bolt snapped off pretty low leaving about an inch. > This is my first attempt at replacing the head gaskets and just > learning as I go and I know there's a lot of experienced members of > this forum and I'm hoping that you all might have some good advice > for me. > Thanks, > Bob > Boston, MA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > To: Recipients of vanagon digests <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 05:00:00 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: vanagon Digest - 16 Jan 2013 (#2013-30) > > There are 4 messages totalling 322 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFZ1aFZhbmFnb24uY29t?= > 2. Vanagon fix on a rainy Wednesday (2) > 3. 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this guy is cool to preserve > these bab= > ies!=A0 And waaaay in the background is probably his house....a > white Vanag= > on in the driveway.=A0 Also, some sort of England high top van near > the for= > eground.=A0 How did he get all of these?=A0 How much invested?=A0 > Who's buy= > ing them after restored?=A0 Anybody on The List?=A0 Is this guy in > VA on li= > st?=A0 He should be!=A0 Sure would be nice to know the whole story. > > Rich > San Diego > > > > --- On Wed, 1/16/13, george jannini wrote: > > From: george jannini > Subject: Re: Vanagon fix on a rainy Wednesday > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 5:32 PM > > Location of http://www.vuhvanagon.com/=A0 is on US 11, Pulaski VA. > > Pump 1011 Old Lee Highway, Pulaski, VA into Google Maps click on > Street > View and have a look. > > Geo/ATL > > > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Stephen Grisanti wrote= > : > >> Interesting.=A0 I've been by that spot many times on the way up >> U.S. 340 = > to >> Wayne Cycle in Waynesboro but I never noticed that place.=A0 Must >> not hav= > e >> been doing the Vanagons ten years ago when I made that run.=A0 I'll >> be su= > re >> to check next trip.=A0 Thanks for the heads up. >> I have seen some vans at the CJ Bugg place on U.S. 250 just west of >> there= > , >> and occasionally one or two at the Nethken place by the Augusta >> County >> Expo, visible from I-64. >> Stephen >> >> --- On Wed, 1/16/13, Harold Teer wrote: >> >> From: Harold Teer >> Subject: Re: Vanagon fix on a rainy Wednesday >> To: "Stephen Grisanti" >> Cc: "list" >> Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 2:25 PM >> >> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Stephen Grisanti >> wrote: >> ............You might be aware of the infamous Vanagon place in >> Pulaski, Virginia. >> >> >> Stephen, >> >> The owner of those Vanagons sends a lot of them to an automotive >> garage >> by the name of GOLDWrench (http://www.goldwrenchauto.com/) in >> Waynesboro, >> VA.=A0 If you drive by the place, you almost always see 10-15 vans >> waitin= > g to >> be repaired/restored/whatever you call it. >> >> >> Harold >> >> Harold Teer >> 1991 Westy >> Harrisonburg, VA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.latimes.com/videogallery/70309490/News/...rcial-yard >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:25:07 -0700 > From: OlRivrRat > Subject: Re: Vanagon fix on a rainy Wednesday > > Didn't take the time to StreetView it earlier but both > GoogleEarth & > GoogleMaps show > > a WholeBunch more Vanagons there they show in the view from above ~ > Which image would > > you suppose is the more recent ~~~ > > ORR ~ DeanB > > On 16 Jan , 2013, at 6:32 PM, george jannini wrote: > >> Location of http://www.vuhvanagon.com/ is on US 11, Pulaski VA. >> >> Pump 1011 Old Lee Highway, Pulaski, VA into Google Maps click on >> Street >> View and have a look. >> >> Geo/ATL >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Stephen Grisanti >> wrote: >> >>> Interesting. I've been by that spot many times on the way up U.S. >>> 340 to >>> Wayne Cycle in Waynesboro but I never noticed that place. Must not >>> have >>> been doing the Vanagons ten years ago when I made that run. I'll >>> be sure >>> to check next trip. Thanks for the heads up. >>> I have seen some vans at the CJ Bugg place on U.S. 250 just west of >>> there, >>> and occasionally one or two at the Nethken place by the Augusta >>> County >>> Expo, visible from I-64. >>> Stephen >>> >>> --- On Wed, 1/16/13, Harold Teer wrote: >>> >>> From: Harold Teer >>> Subject: Re: Vanagon fix on a rainy Wednesday >>> To: "Stephen Grisanti" >>> Cc: "list" >>> Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 2:25 PM >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Stephen Grisanti >>> >>> wrote: >>> ............You might be aware of the infamous Vanagon place in >>> Pulaski, Virginia. >>> >>> >>> Stephen, >>> >>> The owner of those Vanagons sends a lot of them to an automotive >>> garage >>> by the name of GOLDWrench (http://www.goldwrenchauto.com/) in >>> Waynesboro, >>> VA. If you drive by the place, you almost always see 10-15 vans >>> waiting to >>> be repaired/restored/whatever you call it. >>> >>> >>> Harold >>> >>> Harold Teer >>> 1991 Westy >>> Harrisonburg, VA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.latimes.com/videogallery/70309490/News/...rcial-yard >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:44:42 -0600 > From: JRodgers > Subject: Re: VuhVanagon.com > > In Alabama, even if you are the most redneck of rednecks - with your > car > in front of your house trailer sitting up on blocks with the engine > out > after the car died - if you have a title, it is supposed have current > registration and if registered must have a current tag or license. > If it > is licensed, it must have liability insurance. The annual tag serves > as > the property tax. Of course nobody with a vehicle up on blocks ever > does > all that - but it is the law! Screwy! > > John > > On 1/16/2013 7:03 PM, kimbrennan@mac.com wrote: >> Haven't checked on Pulaski county, but many other counties in >> Virginia require you to pay personal property tax on vehicles >> regardless of whether they are titled or road worthy. Can add up to >> quite a bit of change. Like Chris says, local govts aren't >> necessarily auto enthusiast friendly. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jan 16, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Jamie Fitterer wrote: >> >>> Amazing. So a guy wants to have a hobby to fix up and sell a few >>> vans and big brother or business has to come along and stomp on >>> you. Although, this example is a little absurd I am referring >>> more towards if a person wanted to just sell one or two a year. >>> And that somehow hurts used car dealers that want nothing to do >>> with VW Vanagons? Some state require 50 - 100K bonds to be able >>> to sell only one or two. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:55:44 -0500 >>>> From: JordanVw@AOL.COM >>>> Subject: VuhVanagon.com >>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>> >>>> In a message dated 1/16/2013 2:07:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>>> Rubatoguy@COMCAST.NET writes: >>>> >>>> And apparently the city went after him because they claimed he >>>> was an >>>> unlicenced auto dealer: >>>> >>>> _http://www.southwesttimes.com/2009/12/archive-4281/_ >>>> (http://www.southwesttimes.com/2009/12/archive-4281/) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> the mistake kevin made was buying a property that was right in >>>> the middle >>>> of town on a main road. if he had bought a farm in the country >>>> off a main >>>> road in the middle of nowhere, nobody would have complained. >>>> >>>> i went thru something similar a few yrs ago as some of y'all may >>>> remember. >>>> the most vanagons ive ever had at one time was about 25 -30 or >>>> so at my >>>> folks farm. you couldn't even see them from the road, they >>>> were all neatly >>>> lined up like kevins.. but..it just took one person to make a >>>> call to the >>>> township and that was it. it was a way for them to make money >>>> on the >>>> fines so they jumped on it like flies on poo.... "fine" with >>>> me, i sold the >>>> westys and parted out the rest. i saved what i could but a lot >>>> of good >>>> stuff went to the crusher as i was under a time constraint. >>>> made some money >>>> back at the local scrapper when i hauled them over the scale, >>>> but mostly it >>>> was a loss because scrap metal was down then. such is >>>> life. i just >>>> have 3 runners now and one parts van for my own use. my vanagon >>>> collecting days are over! :) >>>> >>>> chris >>>> '89 westy >>>> '84 sunroof wolfsburg >>>> '85 doka >>>> and one '85 parts van. >>>> that's it!! >> > > ------------------------------ > > End of vanagon Digest - 16 Jan 2013 (#2013-30) > **********************************************


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