Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:40:56 -0600
Reply-To: mcneely4@COX.NET
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From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Cold weather, short trips
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---- Jeff <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> "not the local minimum wage drug user"
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> Wow, that's really offensive. It's pretty sad if you really feel this way...
I apologize. Not all workers in fast lube shops fit that description. The minimum wage part, yes, and that is driven not by any fault in the workers, but by societal expectations of getting something for nothing, and corporate greed. I'd rather pay an independent shop a reasonable fee for the work and support a system that rewards workers for providing good value. mcneely
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> Jeff
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dave Mcneely
> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:39 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Cold weather, short trips
> >
> > Here in central Oklahoma the posted price at just about any fast lube place is around $30-35. The same is true at Firestone and similar places. Ironically, dealers will change the oil for a little less, and my Toyota dealer offers much lower prices to "loyal customers." Of course, that is in hopes of selling up and selling additional services. But the other places offer "specials" through various mechanisms, so no one should pay full price if willing to use such services. But it is better to either go to a good independent shop (now pushing $50 for an oil change) or do it yourself.
> >
> > At $4 per quart for oil, and another $4-10 dollars for a filter, a self change now costs $20-30. But, you know you did it right (or if you didn't, you are to blame, not the local minimum wage drug user.
> >
> > mcneely
> >
> > ---- J Stewart <fonman4277@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> >> It has actually grown to between $35.-40.00 now for an oil change now
> >> at Jiffy Lube, though pricing may be regional. I'm in the Washington
> >> D.C. area and we get screwed on pricing for everything from food to
> >> gas. I'll never take my personal cars there again, but I still have to
> >> take my company car there. Jeff Stewart ----- Original Message -----
> >> > "Quickie lubes" can't make it on $20 oil changes, they are a loss
> >> > leader and they have to sell unnecessary add-ons every time or they
> >> > go broke. It's the business model. Caveat emptor, and you did a
> >> > good job teaching your daughter, but in my experience most folks
> >> > quit doing this check sooner or later when nothing changes (as it should be).
> >> > Better yet, find a good independent shop for your regular
> >> > maintenance.
> >> > Stuart
> >
> > --
> > David McNeely
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David McNeely
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