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Date:         Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:17:02 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: No Start Cause: Relay Failure. PICS, Thoughts.
Comments: To: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <vanagon%2013020604350958@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
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re : the solder used in the wave tank will have had a mushy zone between solidus and liquidus.

What is a wave tank please ?

On 2/6/2013 1:34 AM, David Beierl wrote: > At 01:42 AM 2/6/2013, neil n wrote: >> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h3JODsFUDHM/URHsPfqBbZI/AAAAAAAAGy4/5DkyKweHpnc/s576/Jetta%2520Power%2520Supply%2520Relay%2520Solder%2520Crack.jpg >> >> >> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vmq-vUhQT4s/URHsPue73gI/AAAAAAAAGzA/cNsoAUx6cJw/s640/Jetta%2520Power%2520Supply%2520Relay%2520Solder%2520Crack%25202.jpg >> > > Fascinating. As Dick says, the flux suggests prior rework. The > first image clearly shows a large melt zone caused by arcing around > the terminal (delimited by the curved line midway between the > terminal and lead), and in the second there appears to be a fracture > zone around the righthand lead as well, not surprising under the > circumstances. Since 63/37 solder (which solidifies abruptly) is > expensive, the solder used in the wave tank will have had a mushy > zone between solidus and liquidus. > > This relay clearly was not designed to be used without a socket to > mechanically support the terminals, and/or the mechanical staking of > the terminal into the relay baseplate has failed. I'd suggest > getting a socket under it or its replacement if at all possible. > > Yours, > d >


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