Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 08:59:38 -0500
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From: Mike B <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: Fw: melting lower thermostat housing
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New hoses from BBT;
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Mike B.
On 3/8/2013 4:11 PM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) wrote:
> Scott, do you think it is fine that people are driving around with decades
> old coolant hoses? Of course you don't.
> Did I tell them that they must buy the hoses from me? No, I did not.
>
> I get so many calls from people who, because a small and rather inexpensive
> coolant hose blew out, lost their head gaskets, or even the whole motor. I
> want to bring people out of the false sense of security that they have. I
> highly agree the the plastic coolant parts should also be replaced at the
> same time with either new ones or metal replacements. Again, I am in
> business, so yes I would love people to buy things from me. However
> foremost I want people to prevent catastrophic failures on their vans. To
> protect their engines so they can get many more years of enjoyment out of
> them. This is not a cheap sales pitch. It is something vital that needs
> to be discussed since many people are ignoring this issue completely. They
> feel that ignorance is bliss. It isn't. It is sitting on the side of the
> road, with steam coming out from behind the license plate and feeling
> stupid. If I can prevent that by warning people, I will continue to do so.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
> www.vanagain.com
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
>> the only thing missing here is 'Limited supply. Order yours now !'
>>
>> I suppose for 'regular people' it would be good to replace all or some of
>> their hoses.
>> I'm not finding them to be much of a problem.
>> I have more problems with plastic cooling system parts breaking ......even
>> just crumbling.
>> I'd be more concerned with those than hoses.
>> Hoses you can find or make up if you have too.
>> But the one-application only plastic parts like a 2.1 Coolant Distrubution
>> tower ..
>> and the 2.1 t-stat housing ..
>> those will fail for sure and there's no substitue for those. Thankfully
>> they are being reproduced in metal ..
>> as well as 1.9 plastic parts that break too easily when old.
>>
>> Same for the plastic main coolant pipes ....mid 85 and up.
>> The metal insert ends of those slide out of place ...
>> a most favorite spot is at the forward end , above the spare
>> tire..probably on the feed-to-the-radiator pipe.
>> Took me quite a few tries to repair one of those out on the road once good
>> enough to continue over a big pass in the summer time.
>>
>> yeah ..the plastic is more of an issue than the rubber stuff in my
>> experience. One can almost always come up with something for a hose if
>> needed...but that plastic stuff .......
>>
>> have fun !
>> scott
>> www.turbovans.com
>> On 3/8/2013 3:45 AM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Frank. What I have seen is that the original hoses went a
>> good 15 years without needing replacement unless they were contaminated
>> with oil or overheated. However there are still folks out there that have
>> original hoses on their vans. If your van is a 91 that means your hoses
>> are 22 years old. They just graduated from college! Don't you think it is
>> time to let them go and live their own lives :-) If you have an 84 Vanagon
>> the hoses are 29 years old. They have already gotten divorced, lost their
>> jobs and are living in the basement. You need to kick them out! It is for
>> their own good. :-)
>>
>> Hoses get old, they wear out. Unless you like sitting on the side of the
>> road waiting for a tow truck on a cold, dark night, why don't you replace
>> your hoses this spring and have a fresh start. The aftermarket hoses are
>> good for at least 10 years so you won't have to worry about it for a long
>> time, if ever. And you can have the peace of mind that at least, you won't
>> be broken down waiting for me to ship you one of those special preformed
>> hoses express mail so you can continue on your trip this summer. :-)
>>
>> Ken Wilford
>> John 3:16www.vanagain.com
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Frank Condelli <RAlanen@aol.com> <RAlanen@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> That's a bit excessive. Cost of doing that is $500 ~ $600 IF you
>> can get all the hoses ! As someone who works on these van all this time
>> for the last 10 ~ 15 years I have not seen this as necessary. Yes, some of
>> the hoses need replacing now and then but every 2~3 years ! Most folks
>> would give up on these vans if that were true.
>>
>>
>> On 2013-03-07, at 9:21 PM, Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hoses, crack and deteriorate from the inside out. And should be replaced
>> every 2 to 3 years! They will look great on the outside, and be cracked
>>
>> to
>>
>> pieces on the inside.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Frank Condelli
>> Almonte, Ontario, Canada
>> '87 VW Westy, '00 Kawasaki 250 Sherpa, "98 Ducati 750 Monster & Lionel
>> Trains (Collection for sale)
>> Frank Condelli & Associates - Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the
>> Ottawa Valley
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>>
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