Date:         Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:45:17 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Replacing Starter on 85 Vanagon - Jackstands or Ramps ?-The
              bypass button.
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Hi,
  .I always do ..
if I have a 1.9 stater on 'any' engine... I put in the 86 and later
Bosch rebuilt.

Keep in mind that VW made the main battery cable, batt to starter,
considerably larger in 86.
On my own 85 I kinda cheated by routing a nice fat wire in parallel to
the smallish 85 main batt cable.
   It had chronic hard cranking until I did that.  Now it's fine ..with
a 2.1 86 and later starter.

scott
turbovans
On 3/20/2013 5:22 PM, Jeff Palmer wrote:
> Speaking os starters ...
>
> When the time comes to replace mine on my 85 (with Boston Bob 2.1) I should upgrade to an 86+ starter right?
>
> Thanks
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 2013-03-20, at 5:32 PM, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like it was wired using the power for the ignition as the source. Since the ignition circuit is not designed to carry that load, including the circuit within the fuse block you may be adding future failures. Yes these things at times can be helpful and that is why test switches and alligator clips are available.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dave Mcneely
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:48 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Replacing Starter on 85 Vanagon - Jackstands or Ramps ?
>>
>> ---- Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote:
>>> while you're in there,
>>> consider installiong a starter trigger cheater wire to hide in the
>>> engine compartment..
>>> that's awfully handy for self-rescue, starter testing, compression testsetc.
>> Scott, I had my mechanic add a push button starter switch in the engine compartment.  He replaced the ignition switch also, which had a seam on the plastic housing that had spread open (how that would happen I do not know).  However, the key has to be on for the button to activate the starter.  That obviates someone using the button to start the van and drive it away without a key, but if it does not bypass the ignition switch, how does it help me to self rescue?  I should have gotten that explanation from him, but I did not at the time.  Can you help me to understand how this thing works and what the pros and cons are?
>>
>> Thanks, mcneely