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Date:         Fri, 22 Mar 2013 22:15:01 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Beyond Vanagon
Comments: To: mcneely4@COX.NET
In-Reply-To:  <20130323013703.4NOYR.700023.imail@eastrmwml206>
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Europeans seem to like stuff that needs to be fixed! Not much difference in the design philosophies of automobiles and industrial equipment.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dave Mcneely Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:37 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Beyond Vanagon

Well, it's a Fiat, and the service will be by Chrysler. Both of those are big question marks, but it has been around Europe for a while.

I have been hopeful regarding something to replace my VW camper that would be reliable. Don't know about this.

mcneely

---- Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET> wrote: > Since it's Friday, I'll put this out: http://wot.motortrend.com/2014-ram-promaster-cargo-van-starts-at-29625-diesel-is-4000-more-337795.html#axzz2OITfgyOz > > Anybody thinking beyond Vanagon? I love my 85 tintop Vanagon and it's predecessor a 70 Baywindow. Been lots of fun and adventure over the past 39 years. Roadtrips will always be a part of my life, and I've been thinking about a future vehicle. The future may be arriving soon. October. > > Have been reading a lot online about MB Sprinters, and then was getting excited about then new Ford Transit (not Transit Connect). Both seemed to be okay platforms. But have now discovered the Fiat Ducato, a huge seller in Europe and currently being made in Mexico and re-badged as a Chrysler Ram ProMaster. In USA showrooms this October. Like the others, will be available in an array of bodies and wheelbases. For me, I would start out with an empty cargo van with the high roof, 116-inch wheelbase, and then build out my own camping interior. > > Really like the front-wheel drive of the ProMaster which results in lowest step-in height in it's class. Also, pretty tight turning radius (gets bigger with the mid- and long-wheelbase versions). Gas engine has an impressive 27 MPG highway; diesel engine is an option for $4K more. Presumably, parts and service would be readily available across the entire North American continent. And the price is reasonable too for the cargo versions (passenger versions not announced yet). The version I want looks to be around $32K. > > I'm sure the van conversion people will be all over this vehicle! And lots of interior goodies to shop for from the RV equipment suppliers. My plan is to buy such a vehicle in the next couple years, then design (I used Solidworks 3D CAD) a versatile interior that meets my needs and desires, and then build it out. Would be a labor of love I imagine. But have done the same with my Vanagon. The goal is to have a 4 season retirement vehicle for travels across the continent over the next 20 years. > > Take a look at the above link (copy and paste as needed).....plenty of information out there, more arriving daily. What do ya'll think? > > Rich > San Diego

-- David McNeely


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