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Date:         Sat, 6 Apr 2013 07:18:07 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Spare Fuel Pump Saves the Day-Old Gas
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The problem with old gas is that the volatile stuff is gone and the liquid that remains does not burn well. Some of it will still be burning in the exhaust and you can see the exhaust begin to glow red especially at night. Can't imagine it being good for the catalyst. I would also be concerned about deposits. However I have not had any pump or injector issues. A gallon or two added to a tank will not cause any problem as long as it is still in liquid form. I would be really concerned though energizing a fuel pump that is not installed once it has had gasoline in it. The fuel travels right over the motor armature and brushes in these things. They rely on the lack of air and the guts being completely submerged to prevent the arcing of the brushes from setting them off. Taking it out, with the hoses disconnected could give you a nice surprise.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Scott Daniel - Turbovans Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 10:56 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Spare Fuel Pump Saves the Day

Hi Mike.. the reason I can't really say mix old gas 50-50 with new gas is people will be all over that saying it will harm injectors and fuel pumps or what not. That's why I have to say 'in tiny amounts'.

here is what I think is masterful .. knowing exactly what one can get away with and what one can't. But even then ...if you know what you can get away with like that... people will be freaking out that you're advising people to do something harmful to their Fine Machine. or that you can't tell there's been damage yet , but there might be really.

lol....if you've tightened literally 25,000 or more lug nuts by hand and feel for over a nearly half century of working on cars , and suggest that doing so is just fine ..some people will freak out sayingyou MUST use a torque wrench every time ( how come the owner's manual doesn'tmention that for a flat tire, hmmmm ? ) or you'll kill yourself with your improperly tightened lug nuts.

Somewhere on atthescale, there is an intelligent pointwhere experience, practicality, and plain sense intersect.

On 4/5/2013 6:55 PM, Mike B wrote: > No, not hard at all, Scott. Mix old stale gas 50/50 with fresh gas > and it burns just as well as any other gas. > As you already explained, there's no easy way to legally dispose of > it, and it's too expensive to discard when it will burn just fine in > your vehicle. I would know, I've already done this trick many times before. > > Mike B. > > > On 4/5/2013 9:36 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote: >> running fresh gas into a fuel pump that had a little oil or WD-40 in >> it and right into your fuel filter then engine, isnot likely to do anyharm. >> That's one of the reasons I suggested WD-40 .. >> a fantastic unversal moisture disperer. And not harmful to much at all. >> Don't drink it though. >> >> ways to get rid of old gas - >> just let it evaporate ....very bad in environmental terms, possibly >> even illegal. >> 2. burn it in tiny amounts in a running car or van. >> 3. sneak small amounts into your waste engine oil that you turn in >> for recycling. >> >> no joke either ..something like5 or 10 gallons of old or contaminated >> gas is not an easy thing to get rid of. >


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