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Date:         Tue, 2 Apr 2013 18:19:36 +1100
Reply-To:     Dan Andrews <devilish.dan@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dan Andrews <devilish.dan@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: SAFETY WARNING about Original Continental Tires as a spare
              tire
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <515A47AA.3070406@turbovans.com>
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That's the exact spare tire I have on my '82 T3 here in Australia. :)

I've only owned it since September (it's my first 'car'), and was surprised to learn that 'rotating the tires' doesn't involve moving the spare through a period of service - it just sits there (across the decades, it would seem)

-Dan

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On 02/04/2013, at 1:51 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote:

> Hi all, > I am finding a lot of these 14 inch original tires in the spare tire > holder of vanagons. > Specially .. > The Contental 185R14 C TRANSPORT RS 771. > > I am removing one from the rear of an 85 Westy right now .., > there are huge chunks of tread missing, and obviously splitting cord > structure below that. > > Lucky no one got killed ! > These people had a rear tire go flat about 6 months ago ..or some tire > failure .. > so they put this spare Continental on .. > and drove it for 6 months. They are very lucky their Westy stumbled > under power recently ....otherwise this tire failure wouldn't have been > discovered until total failure and some possible serious mishap. . > I could tell on the test drive there was a thump from a tire, but they > couldn't. I think they drove from Oregon to LA or something out of town > like that...very lucky the van didn't run right. > > IF YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE TIRES as a spare, I would not drive it more > than 10 miles at 40 mph. > I have seen many of this exact brand and model of tire fail .. > as in tread separation, even when only one year old. > > and ...... > I have seen a whole rash of people driving vanagons when they are not > working right ..and they have no idea lately. > I have also seen a whole rash of really bad vanagon and car work lately. > I promise you .. > if you take your van in for 4 brand new tires and alignment ...odds are > 95 % they won't even check the spare tire pressure. > and ... > there are hundreds of vanagons right this very second with very low > spare tire pressure .. > and hundreds with original spare tires. > Plus................., Tire shops are not smart enough to sell you a new > tire or decent used spare when they put 4 brand new tires on your Vanagon.

> > It's fine if people run their vanagons into the ground.. > but when it comes to bad tires, or poorly working brakes .. > you are not the only person you might hurt. > > I just had another van ...gorgeous 86 Syncro Vanagon ..if the oil > warning buzzer had not gone off on them .. > the people driving it had no idea the brakes are working only about half > of normal performance. > Very old male driver .....shouldn't really be driving .. > his partner can't see very well, so she doesn't drive ..,,, > it's a good thing they had an engine problem .. > and besides the operator of that van being clueless about it not working > right at all .. > his fairly fresh engine rebuild had about 20 workmanship mistakes on it > ..missing parts, wrong parts, wrong fasteneers, etc. > And the guy who did the engine job is 'a VW trained german certified > mechanic with 30 years experience' ..........Totally sloppy work IMO> > > The vanagon people with the failed tire ...their friend asked me who > to take their Jeep Cherokee to for good work .. > I honestly could not think of one shop in my area that could be trusted > to do good work on it. > Dang .. > > > > .


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