Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 01:22:31 -0400
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: '86 Vanagon removing/installing flex plate & torque converter
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Scott,
As a reminder on the 2.1 engines the rear main bearing does not have the thrust surfaces on it. The thrust is taken up by the spacers against the case on both sides. Your test won't work.
If the o-ring on the flywheel/flex plate is good no oil will reach the bolts unless the works comes loose. Loc-tite will prevent the fasteners from loosening but if they are good and properly torqued the loc-tite is not needed. If the bolts or threads in the crank should yield the "connection" will still fail, just that the bolts won't fall out. Still not a bad thing to use.
Dennis
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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:03 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: '86 Vanagon removing/installing flex plate & torque converter
I would add , lock-tite on the flex plate bolts that go into the crank.
Besides being 'in there for sure and won't loosen up' ..those threads also need to be sealed against engine oil going past the threads.
Auseful thing to do when adjusting end-play on a high miles engine is to temporarily put in too many shims so crank is locked to the rear main bearing ..then see if crank will rotate a little...if it does, it's the ream main bearing is loose in the case.Not a good thing.
Use red or red lipped rear main seals only.
bB extra careful on the 2.1 that a spacer thing does not slip down out of place when putting the flex plate on the final time.
There are just SO many details in doing really good work.
Guided a guy today , a smart guy too, lover of VW's , educated successful wildlife biologist..
in dropping and resealing a 2WD fuel tank ..
every few minutes ...this clampwas on at wierd angle that interferred with something ..
two other clamps where left loose while doing a few onthe fuel pump area, hoses got put in the wrong grommet on the tank ...
many fine points that were overlooked ...easy to do for anyone that does not work on cars or vanagons all the time.
and as I am sure people are tired of reading..
even people that work on cars professionally full time do lots of very sloppy and incorrect things all the time.
You get your good results in the DETAILS ..
not just that some new part got put in ..
"Installing the new part is Incidental to the actual process of producing really good results. The Good Results result from the attention to detail, minute attention even. "
On 4/20/2013 9:53 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
> You will need to check and if needed adjust the crankshaft end play. There is an "o-ring" inside the cavity to seal the crank to the flex plate/flywheel. Many have re-used the crankshaft bolts. The risk is that if they loosen you can destroy the crank. They are cheap enough. Use a torque wrench. As others noted you will need to swap out the bottom studs. Also with the converter out inspect-replace that center bushing. If the van had sluggish acceleration maybe the converter should be rebuilt or replaced. Yes they can go bad! I also like to replace the flex plate to converter bolts.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of Bob Anderson
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 5:58 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: '86 Vanagon removing/installing flex plate & torque converter
>
> Hello All,
> I am about to remove the flex plate from my 1986 original 2.1 engine and install this flex plate, along with the torque converter onto a 1987 2.1 engine that I am about to install in my vanagon. My vanagon has an automatic transmission and this newer engine came from a standard transmission vanagon.
> I'm wondering if this is pretty straight forward or are there particular concerns that I should be aware of? I did read something about the need for using new bolts and not re-using the old one?
> Thanks,
> Bob A
>
