Date:         Thu, 16 May 2013 17:35:17 -0700
Reply-To:     BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 2.0L I4 Opportunities
Comments: To: mark drillock <mdrillock@cox.net>
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Got the pics of that custom mount. You can find it here:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LUsn8nRP9yY/UZV6OIdMVLI/AAAAAAAACic/JcdsvLaINVk/s576/photo%25206.JPG

Stock diesel mount shown for comparison.



On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 8:04 AM, mark drillock <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote:

> The diesel carrier bars are not the only parts to copy. There is also
> the diesel oil pan and the aluminum mounts that bolt to the block. You
> are grossly underestimating the difficulties involved in someone making
> his own 50 degree setup work. Very few people can fabricate all the
> things to duplicate the stock diesel stuff. The 15 degree setup is much
> simpler for the guy at home build as it just needs a custom carrier bar.
> Of course a 15 degree adapter plate and flywheel are also required, like
> from KEP. You can order that with both 15 and 50 degree holes and change
> later to the other angle should you care to.
>
> Even using stock diesel Vanagon pieces people who convert to inline 4
> engines often take weeks and months to finish it the first time they
> try. If they also get the full exhaust from the diesel van they can save
> some time and give up some performance.
>
> The reason people mount the true ABA at 15 degrees is because it fits
> better that way in a Vanagon. To make a "pseudo ABA" work ok at 50
> degrees involves mixing major parts from other VW inline engines such as
> you have. I think a custom intake manifold would simplify things greatly
> for a proper ABA install such as what FAS has done. I would like one of
> those.
>
> Mark
>
> Don Hanson wrote:
>
>>
>>     I would think, even if a person couldn't actually find and buy real VW
>> factory used diesel parts to install an inline in the standard way,  it
>> would be much much easier to just copy the factory stuff from another van
>> or something.   The bars are pretty dang simple and the mounts are still
>> available and not expensive.
>>
>>     Going at it this way, it's likely that most anyone who could change
>> out
>> a WBX motor could also do the swap to an inline gas VW (1.8liter) without
>> learning new skills or becoming frustrated and giving up.
>>
>


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BenT