Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 12:51:28 -0500
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From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Friday free post, California beach fires to be taboo?
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---- Stacy Schneider <vwcrewman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let's play devil's advocate for a minute here . Having that same
> smoky smell week after week could be annoying after a while when you can
> not get away from from it . The camels nose is under the tent ,it started
> with non smoking sections in restaurants and theaters and now we are
> getting towards the bottom of the slippery slope . We cowtow the least
> common denominator to keep them quiet . These are all these people who
> speak quietly and believe that "All things considered " on PBS is actually
> "All things" .
> Maybe this is the time for a little compromise . Let them have
> the fire pits and get back Ball playing ,Frisbee and responsible drinking .
> At least if you go to the beach you know you are not going to be alone and
> you can always leave if offended by people having fun .Hell maybe if they
> could drink ,play ball or Frisbee they would be least likely to break into
> your car or your neighbors house ,because your house has a sin that says"
> Anyone found here at night will be found here in the morning "
>
>
> Gooood
> daaaay
I agree with almost all of what you say. But the objection to fires is one of air quality, and particulate matter (soot) and other pollutants actually do harm to people. Asthmatics might want to use the beaches, too, and some live near beaches.
Whenever I camp, I sometimes have a fire. But I know that in some locations there are good, public welfare reasons for not having one. California beaches may have unfortunately become one of those places. It is a price we pay for there being so many of us, so crowded together.
mcneely
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> Stacy
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> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
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> > ---- Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > > Someone a while back posted that they used a Weber Smokey Joe to have
> > there
> > > "campfire" in so that it would be
> > > enclosed (and work in places that didn't allow campfires.) and yet have a
> > > similar ambiance. I liked that idea so got one myself.....
> >
> > Well, lots of folks carry grills to the boonies. Many parks have grills
> > installed at campgrounds and picnic grounds. But I am not sure that a fire
> > enclosed in a container like the "Smokey Joe" would meet the pollution
> > control objectives of the proposed ordinances in the LA area. In fact, I
> > doubt that it would. mcneely
> > >
> > > Steven
> > > 91 Westy
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Loren Busch <starwagen@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > RE: Gas Campfires
> > > > Hey, Arnott already has one, portable gas fired campfire. Gets used
> > when
> > > > no fires allowed.
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > David McNeely
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> --
> 1989 Swedish Tristar with Aluminum gates and Atiwe 16" Wheels.
> Oldest son is an Eagle scout.
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David McNeely
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