Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:40:42 -0700
Reply-To: Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Prius question with vanagon content
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I suspect that the electric AC in the later Prius is using power from the
larger battery pack which being replenished by the gasoline engine.
So I believe you would have to have quite a hefty battery to do the same
in the Vanagon configuration. Kudos to anyone that finds out otherwise.
my $.02
Steven
91 Westy
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Scott Ohana <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>wrote:
> not too hard to google such things ...
>
> it would have to be a fair amount ...3.4 KW sounds like a lot of watts
> to me. Convert that to amps ...
> You'll find it's a lot likely, I'd think anyway.
>
>
> *How much current does the A/C compressor draw?*
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> ------------
> The 12,000 btu A/C in our MH draws about 1KW, ~10 Amps but it doesn't
> have a reheat/remix mode/cycle as does most modern day automatic climate
> control systems. So 3.4KW is likely correct for the Prius, but given the
> addition cabin volume and greenhouse glass of the new HH 6.1KW might be
> correct for it and the RX.
>
> They could both probably be reduced to the 1KW range via running in
> recirculate, MAX COOL mode (bypasses the reheat/remix cycle), and then
> using the blower speed to manually adjust the cabin temperature to your
> comfort level. Purchasing and installing a coolant shutoff valve
> <http://www.greenhybrid.com/**discuss/#<http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/#>>
> to stop the flow of HOT coolant
> to the heater core would also help.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/13/2013 4:14 PM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
>
>> Maybe the information is in here:
>>
>> Hybrid Air Conditioning Systems Overview - OpenSIUC - Southern ...
>> opensiuc.lib.siu.edu/cgi/**viewcontent.cgi?article=1023&**context=auto.<http://opensiuc.lib.siu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1023&context=auto.>
>> ..
>> by E Talley - 2011
>> Apr 1, 2011 – Talley, Eugene, "Hybrid Air Conditioning Systems Overview"
>> (2011). Presentations. ... Belt Driven A/C Systems ... “new” Prius is the
>> 2004 MY.
>>
>> I tried to find it, but didn't have the patience. There is a photograph
>> of the condenser label, but I could not read it. I looked at my Prius
>> (2005 model) but the condenser is under the car and I did not crawl under
>> there to look. Pretty tight fit. I have to put it on blocks to change the
>> oil. Next time, I'll look, but that will be a while.
>>
>> mcneely
>>
>> ---- Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>>> I was looking through the Hayne's manual this evening for a parts
>>> replacement for my wife's 2003 Prius. I noticed when flipping through the
>>> manual that the 2004-on Prius have electrical AC compressors. Can anyone
>>> comment on what kind of current it would take to run an AC compressor on
>>> electricity? One of the big problems with diesel vanagon AC, besides the
>>> power issue, is the mounting and location of the compressor and a way to
>>> reliably drive it with a belt. An electrical solution would obviate that.
>>>
>>> Any comments?
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>> --
>> David McNeely
>>
>>
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