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Date:         Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:42:26 -0700
Reply-To:     Jeff Schwaia <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Jeff Schwaia <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: refrigerator behavior - VANAGON Content????
In-Reply-To:  <20130624171713.QCL5C.468922.imail@eastrmwml205>
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So... where is the Vanagon content in the thread?????

Take it off list!

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dave Mcneely Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:17 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: refrigerator behavior

John, to my taste, huckleberries that I know from the NW are much more flavorful than commercial blueberries. Being a bit botanically inclined, I can tell you that whether called huckleberries or blueberries, all are closely related, in the genus _Vaccinium_, as are cranberries. The blueberries now raised commercially in the southern U.S. were developed by several southern university extension services from wild plants that most southerners called huckleberries. If your huckleberries have the small, soft seeds, rather than a bit larger stony seed, they belong to the group from which the commercial southern blueberries were developed. If they have the slightly larger, stony seed, then they were of the group known as huckleberries in northern states, as well, but I have never seen those species in Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Oklahoma, or Texas. I have seen the wild high bush species, but with soft seeds only.

But, in botany, common names are just for confusion, since different folks use different names for the same plants, and the same names for different plants.

I'll take the wild fruit, whatever its called, over the commercial any time I can get it. To my knowledge there are no domesticated huckleberries (those with the harder seeds). I have seen what I consider to be huckleberries for sale in Washington, Idaho, and Montana, but at an extreme price (on the order of $10 for a pint). But I would not pick them for that price. I did pick them for two pies last summer, and on a couple of other occasions, but it takes a while.

mcneely

---- JRodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote: > Dave. > > Being from the South - I grew up on huckleberries in south Alabama. > Can't say I ever saw blue berries until I was grown and away from home. > I like blueberries - and they are what's available most everywhere > these days through the stores and other outlets - very rarely do you > see huckleberries. But I will tell you - I'll take a properly made > huckleberry pie or cobbler over that of blueberries any day of the week. > Huge difference in flavor. > > John > > On 6/24/2013 1:43 PM, Dave Mcneely wrote: > > ---- Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > >> Living off the fat of the land travelling in your Westy, it doesn't get any better! No blueberries here (Seattle) until after the fourth, but they run though late August. One of the healthiest foods you can eat. > >> > >> Flame blew out, no doubt. Don't know what to tell you about the indicator lights though. Maybe David has some ideas. > >> > >> Stuart > > > > Thanks Stuart. Well, the blueberries we get here are "high bush," or "rabbit eye" blueberries. They are improved from wild blueberries native to the southern states. Easy to pick, and some are the diameter of a quarter, though a nickel is about average. > > > > You guys have huckleberries, something we don't see down here. Back in the day, the country folks (my parents for example) called the wild blueberries in the SE U.S. including eastern Oklahoma huckleberries. But they have the smaller seeds that mark them for the blueberry side of the clan. Those are the ones improved as high bush and grown throughout the South now. > > > > Last trip up Washington way the wife and I picked enough huckleberries (wild of course) of two varieties, black and red, to make a couple of pies. But wow, slow going. One has to want that pie. We've done it before. They also make good lures to keep small children moving down the trail. Our grandson finally caught on, and said if we just stopped, we probably could get all the huckleberries we wanted without walking so much. > > > > Yeah, I really like getting out and about and foraging, even when it is farm stuff like these blueberries. > > > > mcneely > > > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > >> Behalf Of Dave Mcneely > >> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 10:16 AM > >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >> Subject: refrigerator behavior > >> > >> Bonnie and I had a great weekend camping excursion with our 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon GL Campmobile. > >> > >> We went to NE Oklahoma Ozarks. First, we visited a blueberry farm, where we picked enough blueberries to last us till next year after we freeze them (my job today). Then we drove to a place on private property where we have permission to camp, and where we have access to a beautiful Ozark stream filled with Smallmouth Bass and other cool water species. I had a great time wade fishing for them with an ultra light spinning rig. I probably caught 75 fish in about six hours total fishing over 2 days. Of course, all but six of those I released. The six made for a wonderful supper, breakfast, and lunch for the two of us. > >> > >> Had an oddity with the refrigerator that I think I understand, but just checking with you guys. > >> > >> While at the berry farm, I put the refrigerator on propane, after driving over with D.C. setting. Refrigerator was very cold, with frost on the cooling fins. > >> > >> When we left the farm, I did something I never do and have advised against. I drove to the creek location (about 5 miles on local roads) without switching back to D.C. Some time later, Bonnie was getting something from the refrigerator, and she said, "David, the refrigerator is warm." I checked all I could think to check. Propane valve was open, LED was glowing green, propane switch in the box was pushed in, indicator lamp was off, setting was on maximum, on-off knob for propane was turned on. Fuse was ok. Refrigerator was warm. > >> > >> By rotating the dial for setting level, I could cause the LED to go off, and the flickering indicator lamp to come on. So, I went through the process of restarting the refrigerator, but of course, not being able to trust the two indicators that normally show that it is operating. I have never been able to see the blue flame in the peepsite, and that was true this time, also. > >> > >> In an hour the refrigerator was cold again. > >> > >> What happened? I believe the flame blew out when I was driving, but I don't know that. > >> > >> mcneely > > > > -- > > David McNeely > > >

-- David McNeely


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